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Hi. I just came across an autographed Babe Ruth baseball. As I am a pretty savvy collector, I know that there are many fakes out there, and this baseball has not been authenticated by anyone yet.
From initial review, I believe that it is authentic, just because the baseball is from the 1930s. The baseball also displays what appears to be the signature that Babe Ruth made on baseballs. The Babe Ruth signature looks a little too dark though for this ball. Any thoughts?
Thanks.
Dustin
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The JSA authenticated basically Gem Mint 10 true Ruth single in the last Grey Flannel auction only brought about $30K with buyer's premium.
No one will count this one as a single whether latent signatures are professionally removed or not.
The signature is no better than 8 and the ball a 5.
It is closer to $6-7K than $25K in this condition IMO.
True single graded 8 signature/7 ball(Harridge) 7.5 overall sold for $26,000 in a Heritage auction in late 2012. Lesser true singles go for $15,000 or so.
This ball does not compare with true singles.
There is currently a dated 1927 single on Ebay with a buy it now of $6500. The date could be professionally removed and it would rival this ball except having the " marks around "Babe" would make it better in my opinion but I would personally leave the signing date.
William- I see that there is now a bidder for the baseball on ebay.
You are not going to outbid me on this item, are you William? lol
I thought that I would share this with you, William. Tell me please what you think. I paid the $100 fee, and got Jim Stinson of Stinson Sports to provide me with his opinion on the ball.
This is what he came up with, and I do not like it very much to be honest with you! I think that he beats around the bush, not really telling me anything that I did not already know. He says at first that he thinks that the signature looks perfect, and then tells me at the end that in his opinion, it is likely not genuine.
You have an "unable to render an opinion" from PSA/DNA and a "Likely not Genuine" from Jim Stinson. There are reasons for those conclusions even though PSA/DNA doesn't reveal their reasons.
I would steer clear of this baseball as I think the chances of it passing a 3rd party opinion is slim. If you must bid, I would ask for a 30 day return if it fails 3rd party authentication.
You already know for certain signatures have been removed which greatly reduces the value even if the Ruth were deemed authentic.
Good luck with it either way but I would be very cautious.
Ball has been bid up to $6260. this is quickly going from a potential steal to a potential nightmare.
I think many are bidding knowing that eBay will help if it fails authentication. But you would still be out the several hundreds of dollars if it fails.
Dustin...I'm proud of you seeking out the experience and opinion of a noted expert and only 1 or 2 dealers I would by a Ruth from. This is what I was telling you I do on many many issues that can cost me money. Now you have to LISTEN! Don't try to get tricky with that "something for nothing" mentality and think you are going to out smart someone.
I haven't looked for a Ruth in all these years because I didn't want to invest the time, effort and money...Should I ever buy one in the future it would be from Jim Stinson or Richard Simon PERIOD.
With the work you're doing, you are another step closer to acquiring an Authentic Ruth signature. Good luck.
With all of the fees and taxes that I have to build into the price of the item, it has now gone too high for me. Thank you to everybody who gave me great feedback!
"Free Trade"
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One of the two other bidders, a 2 feedback and a 7 feedback, could have easily been shill bidders.
Without them, it would have sold for the minimum bid and the chances of either of them actually paying for a $7000 item was not great based on Ebay history so I think the seller came out pretty well either way. Basically a $3000 gain.
I said it was a $6-7K item with signatures removed. Looks like I was pretty close.
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