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What is up with Substance Collectables - Milton Luban

Jason had started a thread; http://live.autographmagazine.com/forum/topics/what-is-exact-proof-...

and like all good threads there are discussions witin discussions but this sub-discussion came up on a dealer Milton Lubin & http://www.substancecollectables.com/boxing_hall_of_fame___1

It appears that in 2003 although the Lubans were properly served but they failed to answer the complaint.

DECISION AND ORDER

MARRERO, District Judge.

By order dated July 22, 2003, the Court authorized entry of a default judgment in favor of plaintiffs Tiffany (NJ) Inc. and Tiffany and Company (collectively, "Tiffany") and against defendants Milton and Connie Luban and their company Luban Incorp. (collectively, the "Lubans"), the proprietors of an internet site selling counterfeit Tiffany merchandise in violation of the Lanham Act, 15 U.S.C. §§ 1114(1), 1116(d). Upon consideration of Tiffany's written and oral evidence as to its damages, the Court awards Tiffany a judgment in the amount of $573,818.64.

Jason went on further in one comment;

This link is the link with the guy and the actual photo we have on files one doctored that has the guy mentioned above.

http://bertorelli.wordpress.com/2010/09/19/rocky%c2%b4s-boxing-glov...

On 17 May 2012 the guys who were building a file heard the following news : He received a letter from the lawyers of Prince Marketing and Super Star Greetings today. Telling him to remove all items and images of Joe Frazier, Micky Ward, Roy Jones Jr, Hulk Hogan, Chuck Zito, Vinnie Paz and the Super Star Greetings logo. This guy is total scum and is getting what he deserves.

The most famous website in the world for tackling fakes did a special on him here you can read it for your selfs. click the link.

I wont pu the photos yet I will leave them as aces in our hands till we have too but I believe there is enough here to make your minds up if this is true or not.

http://www.isitreal.com/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=7...

Recently I received some photos that appear to have been photoshopped and were alleged to be used by Milton Lubin to promote his product offerings. The one on the left is what has been alledged as the real one while the one on the right has been alledged as fake ones that were used as "proof" pictures.

One recent excerpt from Jason;

Ps yes DB strange here seems no one in America cares about what s going on in their door step and on of this forums own. (sometimes Jason - it takes some extra cycles ;-)

Since I have no dogs in this fight and Milton Lubin is an AML member here as was pointed out in the intial thread above, it would be pertinent to have some feedback on these claims and allegations.

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Permalink Reply by GuardDogg on February 5, 2015 at 6:00am

This scumbag does nothing on the up and up. Ebay needs to be notified he is back on their site selling. Oh, Milton loves to talk legal jargon about harassment and it's usually when you locate him or ask a question. I have had several people contact Milton in the past acting like an "uninformed buyer" which is Miltons favorite buyer and we just let him run his mouth and work his deals. All on a tape recorder. Checked my state laws on recording first and I'm just fine. Milton will be found everywhere he goes to sell on the net. Milton can't loose us.

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Permalink Reply by Milton Lubin on February 5, 2015 at 9:51am

Follow who ever you want, I buy and sell. And I don't need to talk legal Jargon, Puppy.

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Permalink Reply by Brad Vincent on February 5, 2015 at 9:06am

This is the lovely email i received this morning.

i suppose you are brad vincent. my name is deputy william miller with MGU (multi-agency gang unit) shelby county sheriffs department. i don't appreciate you wasting my time with your BS report with the fbi. yes, my field commander mentioned it popped up on ncic tonight. although it is absolutely none of your damn business, i'm going to tell you anyways. the memorabilia i am selling belong mostly to my lieutenant/best friend and forever my brother who had plans to open a sports memorabilia store after we got out of the marines. the reason there is no website is because there is no one to run it. he was killed in al anbar province on 19 november 2004 during our 2nd TOD. his wife was killed last year by a drunk driver. all the money from the memorabilia is going to their 8 and 10 year old daughters. if i get one more message from any of you little puke wanna-b e-bay police i'm going to teach you and what ever female what happens when you file a false report with law enforcement. i don't know what little geek group you belong to but i suggest you tell them to quit messaging me also. AM I CLEAR TO YOU????

- milmas-5moo6

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Permalink Reply by Brad Vincent on February 5, 2015 at 9:06am

I can't find any such person or officer existing.

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Permalink Reply by Milton Lubin on February 5, 2015 at 10:09am

So now take it up with Ebay, and mention the email and the sale to the officer you spoke to.

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Permalink Reply by GuardDogg on February 5, 2015 at 9:31am

I would tell the punk that wrote this to "KISS MY ASS". If you don't like our policing and keeping rip offs off the internet then I could really care less. If you can't handle the scrutiny then go to the pharmacy and get a box of Kleenex. Sounds like you have a personal problem and a "big mouth".

AM I CLEAR TO YOU PUNK?????

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Permalink Reply by Brad Vincent on February 5, 2015 at 9:42am

I also called the Shelby County Sheriff's office. They had no idea who i was talking about.

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Permalink Reply by Milton Lubin on February 5, 2015 at 9:55am

Ha, Ha, A****** TOLD YOU IT WAS NOT ME!!!!! HA, HA, your probably s******* in your pants, HA, HA...

Now call me one hundred times as you did but now you can say "I am sorry for assuming it was you Milton" and I may accept.

And you too Guard Puppy!

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Permalink Reply by Milton Lubin on February 5, 2015 at 9:57am

Next time don't call me and run your mouth and listen to what I have to say in order to help you find who this is behind the sale, listen and learn, rather than being a stupid idiot and run your mouth.

Here is the into I told you to follow today when I emailed you.

All you had to do is ask:

Click on this link: TO Find contact information Of this seller.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/ebayadvsearch?_sofindtype=9

Fill out the info:

User name I think his, or yours not sure? : milmas-5moo6

Fill out the item number that you purchased.

The click SEARCH.

Then you will have the buyers Real full name and address and phone number he or she registered on ebay,

You will see it is not me, and you can call and bother the real seller of your football. And you should call ebay and tell them about your problem.

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Permalink Reply by Milton Lubin on February 5, 2015 at 10:07am

Now in my opinion still don't believe what was emailed to you today, call up the MGU (multi-agency gang unit) shelby county sheriffs department. and ask to talk to William Miller, and verify the sale and the purchase and see if there is even a person who works their named William Miller. Then you will see if that answer was even true. But if it is, you still should apologies to me. on this forum!

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Permalink Reply by Brad Vincent on February 5, 2015 at 10:00am

It's you buddy you admitted it when I called you. Then after we talked you proceeded, to call me 6 times in row. Trying to tell me the sale was perfectly legal.

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Permalink Reply by Milton Lubin on February 5, 2015 at 10:13am

Now Brad your make up a bull s*** story. I did not admit anything to you, first lie, I called you 6 times in a row to help you a******. And tell you how you can get the contact info on ebay to get to the bottom of who is behind the name. But you wouldn't shut the f*** up. And your biggest lie is that I said the sale was legal. Your the real bull s*** scum bag.