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The eagles autographs

Hello everybody. This is my first time on here, my first post. I am a beginning collector, and wish to seek eagles authentic autographs. I have a chance to buy from the guy who has the largest eagles collection, the guy with 400 plus pieces, anyways, he's selling an 11x14 and I'm not sure if it's legit. Opinions? He does sell quite often and his website is loaded with genuine stuff.

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on May 27, 2017 at 8:55pm

I truly appreciate your question. Well, It allows your eyes not to be "lulled" into a false sense of security with "expected letter shapes but focus or notice that which you would normally not see in traditional examination and also the relations of these features. Spatial relations, sizes so much...I don't know who else uses this - many must - I have spoken to some other authenticators and they have no idea what I am doing until I show then a comparison upside down and backwards, with no words, and they reverse course 180. Do you see any differences in these Nimoys? Not many forgers can make their work successful upside and backward with regard to ink dispersal and pressure. This is a powerful tool!

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Permalink Reply by MN Autograph Collector on May 27, 2017 at 9:09pm

Thanks, Eric! I would have never thought about any of this, but the way you explain it, it makes total sense.

Yes, I definitely notice a difference in the Nimoys. I can't comment on what that would mean, since I don't know his signature in the least and don't know how it may have varied over the years, but there are definite differences in the examples you show.

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on May 27, 2017 at 9:27pm

I might wager there are a rather limited number of reasons for your astute observation...perhaps not ;)

But you have EYES. Follow them :)

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on May 27, 2017 at 11:40pm

Who might be producing some of thses things remains a total mystery to me. I certainly do not say or suggest Mr. Duncan! I believe there was an experience where McCartney's (books?) were sent into a bus and we had essentially a Mal Evans or Mama Jean situation, possibly. I don't know. Just my own opinion folks. Nothing more. I will say I believe, me, things should like they are supposed to.

And I claim my right to have my opinions.

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Permalink Reply by sling on May 28, 2017 at 8:21am

this is good info

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Permalink Reply by sling on May 28, 2017 at 8:20am

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Permalink Reply by sling on May 28, 2017 at 8:18am

who is red marker?

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on May 28, 2017 at 10:26am

That's what Duncan is calling me. I don't know what he's referring to tho.

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on May 28, 2017 at 10:54am

I thought it was the red link superimposed in photoshop showing baselines etc. in the scans from earlier in this ...whatever it is (other bigger older thread). I don't even know who produced those scans. One showed a full letter with the tops of certain characters and relative height marked with a red line(s).

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on May 28, 2017 at 11:42am

You're right. I think Mike T may have done that. I don't think I did, but it's possible.

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on May 27, 2017 at 7:18pm

Steve,what happens when you click on them? I am doing the best I can. :)

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Permalink Reply by Pete Bendu on May 27, 2017 at 11:12pm

The last thing I thought I would be doing tonight is picking up this conversation that I had hoped would have just curled up an died last year.

22 Certificates were issued over the course of a year, coming from multiple third party authenticators. At least that is what I got from reading this thread.

I hadn't had the opportunity to work with or use Mr. Epperson's company, but after seeing his opinion of the Henleys in the last discussion of Mr. Duncan's collection, I likely won't be using it in the future either.

Seeing Steve Grad's signature on the PSA cert in this thread worries me too.

All I can say is that if you spread these around (one at a time) to different authentication companies or sell them slowly thru one auction house at a time, maybe the 3rd party guys aren't seeing what a lot of people here are seeing.

A large grouping of different items all signed the exact same way (as seen in Steve's beige background samples.)

Mr. Duncan, I for one would love to see these scans of your COAs. Did you send only the questionable Henley type items out, or did each authenticator get a mix of good and bad to make sure they didn't see a stack of the same type? Did you send them one or two at a time?

...and if you feel like finally answering my repeated questions from last year on your Super Great American Graffiti piece with the fake Harrison Ford....I'd love to hear your story on that one.