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Where have all of the vintage Hollywood collectors gone?
One thing I've noticed recently on the board is that collectors of vintage/classic Hollywood seemed to be missing in action. Or maybe posts are not gaining traction and getting buried in discussions? I do miss the sharing and opinioning of that kind of material.
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Permalink Reply by Nick Dimeo on
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I agree! Classic Hollywood is my expertise but even I must admit I have been caught up in this new release hoopla as of late. I think Covid hit a lot of these entertainers hard and they are wanting to come back to relevancy with these inexpensive new release autographs. I think things will start getting back to normal when Covid is behind us and all this “giving back to the people” stuff is done. There still are some of us left though. The Classic Hollywood posts will resurface to the top soon enough.
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Permalink Reply by Eddy on
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Honestly, I'm not so sure. I have acquaintances who I've bought, sold and traded with who are no longer actively collecting....some slowly selling collections off. I know it's a broad sweep but (now that I'm well into middle-age) I do wonder if up and coming collectors of the next generations are interested in the classic era.
It would be great to hear from some younger collectors who are indeed interested in this material.
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I don’t get out much and really only have my small circle of people that I purchase from so I can’t really speak for the outside world. I see what is happening on our beloved site here and do think this new release stuff will subside and the site will be back for us Hollywood collectors. I will say this though, I do see a lot more rare Classic Hollywood stuff popping up as of late for sale so there definitely are people retiring and getting out of the business.
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Permalink Reply by crazyrabbits23 on
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They're out there - a lot of vintage stuff is getting buried under the mountain of FOMO-driven releases, but they'll come back. While I don't claim to know much about the field (my signed stuff amounts to a handful of Niven/Bacall signed items), there's definitely still an appeal for that old-school culture.
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Permalink Reply by bernard howard on
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Ask one thousand people under 35 if they know who Jean Harlow or Fatty Arbuckle are? Tick Tock !
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A non-sequitur argument -- I'm only talking about the value of autographs as it relates to specific cultures. There are still collectors and dealers out there who deal in vintage Hollywood materials -- maybe not to the same extent as the hype-driven current ultra-modern market, but if I had something like a signed Fatty Arbuckle letter, I'd be much more confident in that holding its value than whatever signed CD is being pushed out to capitalize on a record chart placement.
I can't necessarily call the latter artificial scarcity, but I would not put any stock into most new releases holding up to the same level of historical value in the long run.
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You are wrong. A Fatty Arbuckle autograph's value is declining. In fifty years,one will be able to purchase an Arbuckle autograph for under $300.00 ( factoring in inflation). "I guarantee it"....................wanna bet??? It is all about supply and DEMAND.Ty Cobb, Babe Ruth, yes.............Fatty Arbuckle,no.
Do you honestly believe that Edward G Robinson or a James Cagney autograph is going to appreciate in fifty years?
https://www.historyforsale.com/signer-memorabilia/edward-g-robinson...
https://www.historyforsale.com/s/james-cagney
https://www.taminoautographs.com/products/cagney-james-signed-photo
If you go back 25 years, these autographs sold for more (factoring in inflation)
I see why you picked the name 'crazyrabbit'
Roscoe Arbuckle Autographs, Memorabilia & Collectibles Page 1 |...
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"A Fatty Arbuckle autograph's value is declining."
Show me a graph and I'll be happy to believe you -- but that's not the answer I gave you. I specifically said that I would be more confident (not guarantee) in one signature versus a modern, mass-produced signed item of a different nature.
You've used a single site as concrete evidence without quoting any other factors, such as hard numbers, historical trends or recent sales, and expect this to be absolute proof for your argument. (I mean, if I had a signed Fatty Arbuckle letter worth $1,500, as that site suggests, I'd be very happy with that result).
Again, come back with some proper historical numbers and I'll be happy to admit I'm wrong.
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The asking price is $1500.00...not sold. Get that straight ! I was born in 1943. My response is anecdotal, but credible and lucid. I have personally witnessed the decline in value of at least 80% of autographs of famous movie stars from the thirties and forties. You are a lot younger than I am so why don't You show me a graph on those artists "with proper historical numbers"
HARLOW
ARBUCKLE
ROBINSON
CAGNEY
"A non-sequitur argument".....................yuk yuk.....you are funny
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Again, show me some evidence to back up your claim. That's how arguments or conversations regarding loaded topics work -- you produce the evidence to back up your claim. You've done none of that -- if you're going to go after someone for not having the same opinion, the bare minimum you could do is bring more to the table than... well, whatever you posted doesn't count as anecdotal, either.
The only thing you've demonstrated is that you have too much time on your hands. Go troll someone else.
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Feed your own ego. I’m busy.
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I never thought I would be reading an argument about Fatty Arbuckle, one of my favorites! That’s why this site is great and relevant to us Classic Hollywood lovers (and autograph collectors.)
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