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CSC Collectibles, ACE & Rare and Signed Make it to EBAY's Banned List
3/15/2012 Chose to update the thread with the other two discussed in comments below that were also new additions to the EBAY banned list. More nominations in the works.
I also confirmed with EBAY spokesman some time ago that the ACE which appears on the official banned list as ACE Authentic is actually ACE (Autograph Certification Experts run by Justin priddy) while Rare and Signed is a UK provider. The official EBAY banned list has not been updated to correct the ACE listing thus any presentation that doesn't show ACE Authentic has been modified by the poster. There is more information contained in the comments below regarding the newest additions to the "prestigious" banned list. Unfortunately, whatever percentage of items that are indeed authentic have been significantly tainted. (there is a presumption that there are authentic items).
There is also a Moderated Blog for CSC & ACE but mostly focused on CSC that was created after this thread. A moderated blog means that any comments "added" would have to be approved by the owner of that thread before they become visible. Unfortunately, there is no way of telling what type of threads they are before posting. This thread is not moderated nor do I see a reason to have a need to moderate as comments that go to far astray can be removed. There are however a copy of additional CSC illustrations depicted from ebay. (end 3-15)
CSC Info borrowed from the Zipper as I wondered how we missed CSC Collectibles having it's very own thread...
Zipper recommends you avoid items with the CSC Collectibles Certificate of Authenticity / hologram. These worthless COAs appear on the same junky fakes we've seen with the equally worthless Nicholas Burczyk COAsZipper suspects it won't be long before this rubbish COA is banned from eBay as well. Sadly, the criminals who produce these fakes will just produce another phony-baloney authentication COA to slap on the bilge they pump out. It's like COA "whack-a-mole."
One thing to note about these mass-produced fakes is some of them are on 5x7 photos. Now, if you paid big bucks for a private signing with Mickey Mantle, Joe DiMaggio or Ted Williams, would you waste it by having them sign offsize and unpopular 5x7 photos? Of course not. The forgers are so cheap, they probably use 5x7s to reduce costs.
and Cyrkin had noted in another thread on PAAS that CSC's were being removed from EBAY even if they had yet to make the banned list. The following commentary seems to support this;
rt6junkie said, "i purchased a Mickey Mantle/ Ted Williams signed photo at a bid aution for $75.00..I advertised it on ebay and immediately it was pulled and i was put on notice NEVER to try to sell this again or I would be booted off ebay..I honestly did not know it was fake. Once again ebay acted Too Strong"
How many of these do you have of thse Board Certified Court Qualified Forensice Document types?
Tags: ACE, RareAndSigned.com, csc, csc-collectables
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Permalink Reply by EjsWurhl on
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I heard that the seller NEAutographs is also on the list. I always assumed that they would just ban COA's from TPA.
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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on
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Actually, Eli, until they banned Morales, TTA and Nicholas Burczyk, I don't think they had published any names on the list since after Operation Bullpen...about 2005. A good number of the COAs banned were sellers...not just illegitimate third party authenticators.
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Permalink Reply by CJCollector on
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When this crap from "CSC Collectibles" is spotted on Ebay and "Reported" it usually gets removed.
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That company (CSC Collectibles) sells the same Mantle, DiMaggio, Ted Williams, Willie Mays and Muhammad Ali garbage that was also certed under the Nicholas Burczyk COA. They've been around for awhile.
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Don't thank me, Cee Gee, "thank" DB. It's his thread.
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Permalink Reply by CEE GEE on
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Oh...my bad....Great work DB...I will be posting some junk I find here...did not realize that this was your thread...I saw the email and just answered...this is going to be a great thread
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Permalink Reply by DB on
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Cee Gee what do you have for examples on them? They seem to be harder to find then an authentic beatle's album.
I am wondering if they are calling themself something else?
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When I come across some junk I will post them if the certs match and the autos don't
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Here's a beauty of a piece of garbage with a CSC Collectibles COA. DB, you might want to edit your title to reflect the correct spelling of "CSC Collectibles." This is being sold by Ebay seller haneysales.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mickey-Mantle-and-Ted-Williams-Autographed-...
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