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hi guys. yoy helped me recently with a tupac autograph discussion and i cant thank u enough. 

i have seen these items for sale failry local.to me in the uk. i could do with some help.on the authenticity. 

thankyou

aaron

the coa is for the insert or thriller. but coas just dont seem to help anymore.

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I wouldnt buy any of these. 

I personally dont think either one is real. The first one i cant be positive on, although i do feel its fake. But the second one is an obvious forgery. It almost resembles the "Bush" forgeries that were sold at Julians auctions in 2012. In case you didnt know, Julians held an auction in 2012 that contained many forgeries forged by Michael Jacksons long time costume designer Michael Bush. The signatures were obviously forged by Bush, they were a direct match to Bush's handwriting, and their is a huge thread on this site showing more proof than most court cases. Not to mention they didnt even come close to matching any known MJ signature style. Julians denied this, even though news coverage was given to the fakes. Unfortunatley, the major players and the money they brought in were able to sweep the matter under the rug. And now their is a surplus of these horrid Michael Bush fakes out on the market. But he will have to answer to the devil for that, so i digress.

But the 2nd one is way off in my opinion. The COA is also indicative of the typical hit and run Vegas forgeries. In Vegas, and other places such as outside Disneyland, and on cruises. These companies pray on people who are visiting and want an authentic autographed item on impulse. They typically offer the pieces and give a way prices, and of course they all are fake. And its typically very hard for anyone to ever get their money back. More than likely thats what happened here, and the owner is trying to pass them off.

But the 2nd one is def bad in my opinion, and if its bad and from the same company as the first one, then they both are bad. Not to mention the first one looks off in my opinion as well, but at least its closer than the 2nd.

Sorry for the bad news, but good luck finding a real one.

Carl

Thanks guys, i appreciate your honesty and keen eyes. i have see this though..

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121073749451?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&...

any thoughts?

That looks good. Can you get a larger image though?

I seem to recall the IPA Network being a good seller, though I haven't heard as much about them in recent years.

The link you have is a copy of an original.  The original SIGNED picture is in the following link:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MICHAEL-JACKSON-AUTOGRAPHED-PHOTO-AUTHENTIC...

IPA Network was top notch. They don't seem to chase down the big names anymore- if I recall they seem to set up autograph signing sessions of "B" movie stars and old time TV shows. And I think "B" is being generous. At one point they were among the more trusted names along with Rchard Kappler and Alfie Pettit. I know they were friends with Alfie at one point. When Alfie was on Leeza Gibbons show Tvonne Woolf was in the audience.

I'm not sure if this is the same IPA Network, but I've seen that name representing some of the guests at comic cons I've been to.

$27000...am I reading that right? LOL!!!!

Yeah, for someone who was known as a generous signer in his lifetime.  Plus it's not really all that great of an photo.

LOL, fishing for a sucker!!!

Rich, that would be correct. They were selling a few Brandos they got with Alfie at one point. I got one from that night, kicking myself for not getting the whole lot from Alfie.

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