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Authenticity is Everything
PSA/DNA Certified Items - Right or Wrong
Not being a dealer or auctioneer I am perfectly suited to referee this discussion if need be. This section is mostly for Items that PSA/DNA has certified that in an opinion of authenticators has missed the mark (AND NOT as far as they know been corrected) along with any other items of significance.
In some cases the certification provided might be a simple rejection while in other cases it's certifying it as authentic when it may be far from it.
The thread is not about the good, the bad or ugly of 3rd parties as there is already an excellent thread in the forum on this started by R&R's Bobby Livington that everyone should follow. That thread alone has produced three disccusions on Farrah Fawcett, Elvis, and now this.
Hopefully, AM members will follow this thread (I am sure the fraudsters & propaganda machines will) and point others to it - Perhaps, the owners of the item that is cited. Those owners can then deal with the authentication firm or sellers and report back their journey.
Since I don't expect the PSA/DNAs of the world to come online and defend/refute (althugh the have an open invitation) the postings then be advised this is not a thread to speculate, accuse, or otherwise besmirch what is or what isn't being done.
So 'nuff said and on with the items. To keep discussions focused and contained - Each Item contributors need to stay in the realm of that item so commentary is not all over the place.
remember if you post an item denote the PSA/DNA number on their sticker... One, if they choose can also validate the item's number on the PSA/DNAs database to see if it is in fact a product of PSA/DNA as we have heard that the fraudsters are/have created bogus ones and report your findings here.
Tags: certification, certifications, errors, forgeries, psa, psa/dna
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Permalink Reply by DB on
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Bjarne also reported, "Comment by Bjarne Soderholm on October 16, 2010 at 7:10pm Travis. It was a quick opinion" and he did not want to send it to PSA, "I don't want to spend 150 dollars on an autograph that I think is genuine and only have it rejected one more time. ."
So perhaps that has some bearing on this but in the face of empirical evidence they seem to have misfired on Bjarnes...
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thanks for the updated post as that clarifies the one above it which is one and the same
Don't be so quick with regards to shafts, one never knows what has occurred since posting. That is what this thread is attempting to do is correct the issues, if we can, but so long as we continue to throw daggers that ain't gonna happen.
Even Batista pointed that out unfortunately in an earlier thread so we need to Cowboy up at times.
What is the website URL....
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Permalink Reply by john reznikoff on
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Any opinions of authenticity on this one. A friend of mine wants to buy .
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Permalink Reply by Anthony Bautista on
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There are a bunhc of these being offered with the same exact autograph on them . Some come with the ali cassius clay version. I was told by three diffrent experts that they are not authentic. I bought a few. They came at a good price to . I should have known. Oh well , live and learn . Here are two that I bought. If they are real some one please let me know as I have 5 of them. Supposedly they came from a signing . But Online authentics and aligraphs.net both said they are not authentic.
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Thanks AB. Curious who the experts that said it wasn't genuine were?
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I am curious what peoples opinions are on these. I have emailed both to PSA and JSA and both say that it would fail.
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GO TO ALIGRAPHS.NET . IT IS VERY HELPFUL FOR ALI AUTOGRAPHS. I THINK THIS IS A COMMOM FORGERY AS YOU SEE A TON OF THEM OUT ON THE MARKEY NOW. IVE SEEN AT LEAST 50 OF THEM NOW. ALL WITH THE SAME STYLE OF WRITING , MOST WITH AKA CASSIUS CLAY AND ALL HAVE THAT SAME M .
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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on
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I tried this site just now and the other day you mentioned it, but it doesn't come up. Can you paste the URL directly from their website please?
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Permalink Reply by Bobby Livingston on
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Our internal authenticators agree these are bad.
I find it extremely rewarding that the boxing experts on this board will not confirm that these are bad.
Another reason to trust PSA.
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I dont understand why no one else has commented at all. Oh well . Psa and Jsa both do a great job at authenticating .
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I think you are taking it the wrong way Greg . You would have to go and read past blogs . No one is saying anything about you . But you are right about some of the things you wrote. A lot of people dont want to do the legwork.
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