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2 Recent autograph additions (Michael Jackson, Phil Spector)... any ideas?

Hey all you did a great job helping me verify nirvana autographs last week, thanks so much!

Heres two more to consider:

the michael jackson autographed was penned at Disneyland w his children, the autograph is on Disney photostock and the person who recieved it was a photographer for disney at one of the princess attractions, this is all I know...

the Phil spector autograph was purchased from an estate sale by someone, along with other specifically early 90s doowop cd reissues. It's the inner book for the Back To Mono box set...

Let me know what you guys think, i feel they are both authentic but yall are p great at this, thanks again!

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The Michael Jackson is not real, sorry
why so sure? i believe it to be with a felt marker
how about phil?
I have no experience with Phil.
Firstly, it looks nothing like and authentic Mj plus it's very rigid and not fluid. Bad attempt

The Jackson is no good imo.

Sorry, but I agree with the others. The MJ is not authentic. It really looks slowly drawn to me. It's not fluid. It looks like someone was trying to be very careful, and little noticeable details are easier to hide with a thick marker.
Unfortunately, that is Phil Spector's autograph but it is mass produced in that book. That is not personally signed the same one is in every book it is a copy page.

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