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Permalink Reply by terrier8HOF on May 4, 2015 at 4:05am

beatles look fine.  lennon likely authentic, from 62 era.

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Permalink Reply by Nate on May 4, 2015 at 6:28am

I'm not sure but the beatles set looks like the kinda thing a uk seller on eBay called ruthiesully has been putting up. This seller I believe takes genuine beatles autographs and copies them onto old looking paper and tries to sell them for bargain prices. I cannot prove this but I reported them to eBay a while back (not surprisingly no action was taken) on a beatles set where I had seen the original, sadly I don't have the photos anymore on that one but here is a Lennon they sold a little while back and compare that to the second picture of the original which belonged/belongs to a member here.

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Permalink Reply by Nate on May 4, 2015 at 6:30am

Only loaded one picture annoyingly. Here is the one that ruthiesully sold (the one above is the original).

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Permalink Reply by terrier8HOF on May 4, 2015 at 1:34pm

holy crap, that IS the same signature.  that explains the bargain price that one of our members paid.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on May 4, 2015 at 2:20pm

There probably are a lot of these. 

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Permalink Reply by Thorsten Knublauch on August 8, 2016 at 3:05am

yes that was my first impression too

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Permalink Reply by Jim Cushman on May 4, 2015 at 6:54am

Lennon looks to be from 1962...The Beatles set looks good...is it real or a copy? Can't tell without seeing it.

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Permalink Reply by Beatlebum on May 4, 2015 at 9:32am

Thanks everybody for your comments and advice. I am not certain if they are real or a copy, I must enquire and keep you posted. Nate that is so shocking to hear and really makes the fact that you have to be so extra careful. I guess I hadn't even thought of that just the actual visual of the autograph, cheers for the tip.

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Permalink Reply by Nate on May 4, 2015 at 9:48am

No worries. I've had a look round and found the Beatles set from that same seller. The seller rather sillily copied a rather exacting set where John had signed for Paul, which was the only reason I had remembered the original. Attached here is the set ruthiesully had for sale (as usual for them it is on old battered paper and mounted slightly cheaply).

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Permalink Reply by Nate on May 4, 2015 at 9:48am

And here is the one it was based on

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Permalink Reply by Beatlebum on May 4, 2015 at 9:54am

Amazing Nate, well spotted... its definitely food for thought for the future. Great to have you and the rest of you all on here to advise and help. Some sellers really have no moral decency. Copying a wrong set, just shows you how much they know about Beatlea autographs. My personal favourite fake is a John Lennon signed Menlove Avenue, signed from the grave as it were. I contacted Ebay and it still stayed up and worse still somebody bought it.

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Permalink Reply by a pug called eva on May 4, 2015 at 10:03am

I'd say they are both some kind of modern copy, maybe given a bit of treatment (tea, lemon, milk and/or heat) to give them age.  The Lennon looks plain daft - in that a perfectly good 61/62 Paul signature has been cut-off or matted out. The tea/beer ring also looks like someone is trying a bit too hard.

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