Authenticity is Everything
Fleetwood Mac - any good ????????????????
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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo
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This is authentic:
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A few more:
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Permalink Reply by Josh Board NEW & Improved
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This guy is such a moron, but I'll say one thing. He says his prices are cheaper because UK and US is inflated and yadda yadda yadda. Okay, so....let's say a signed Pink Floyd album sells here in the inflated US, for $15,000. So...does that mean he'd have no problem listing an authentic Floyd signed album, for $500, as to not "inflate" the market in the UK (inflating it like a flying pig). Why not just take the inflated price, and let a US auction house sell it, and get more bang for your buck? Well....we all know the answer to that one. No auction house would take bogus stuff.
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I agree, signatures can be done in different styles. But authenticators are good at determining that.
Also, since you sell a lot of items -- it's probably in your best interest to prove your side. So, take one of these autographs that people here are claiming are fake. And, pay for an authenticator WE deem to be the best in the business (perhaps Roger Epperson). And, if he says it's good -- you win the debate. You can tell all of us to pound sand. BUT...we're not saying you get to pick ANY autograph in your collection. Pick one of the ones these folks are saying is fake. It is in your best interest to do it. And hell, if you don't want to spend the money for the opinion, I'm sure somebody on this website would make this offer -- if it's deemed to be authentic, they're reimburse you for the money you spent having it authenticated.
Deal?
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Send the Waters to Corey or Roger...that's a clear fail.
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Permalink Reply by John Freeman
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Sorry, but I do not make deals with people who have already stated they hate me for no reason, while saying untrue things about me and the items I'm selling. As I stated previously, people who really know autographs and have honesty and integrity, can see that my items are, in fact, authentic. The problem is, they will not speak up because of all the bullies on here with their name calling and finger pointing. When joining this site, I hoped I might find like minded collectors with a certain level of maturity who know about autographs, and have the ability to articulate their opinions with intelligent dialogue. Unfortunately, all I've found so far is a gang of kindergarteners who only want to drive away anyone who might be a threat to their so-called "status" as "experts".
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"Unfortunately, all I've found so far is a gang of kindergarteners who only want to drive away anyone who might be a threat to their so-called "status" as "experts..." - John Freeman
That could be said of a large number of a type of autograph dealer on eBay.
What is more likely, everyone here has some personal bent towards you, simultaneously, or your material is "questionable?"
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Here's something else you're not getting. Sure, your stories can fly with people that aren't autograph collectors, just fans of a specific band. But we ALL KNOW...yes, sometimes a signature can look completely different. Roger Epperson (I believe it was), has a story about a Rolling Stones guitar he got signed in person, and Mick Jagger printed his name out, like a 5-year-old. He knew Mick signed it, he was there. But nobody else probably would want to buy it (maybe that's why Mick did it).
I met Todd Rundgren once and had him sign a photo my friend took of him and Ringo on stage. He loved the photo, wondered where I got it, wanted a copy, etc. As he signed it, he wrote RINGO, and then said "Oh s***, I wrote Ringo's name, not mine!!! I'm so sorry." So he crossed it out, and signed his name.
So, somebody might think (if I ever tried to sell or whatever), that I was trying to forge Ringo's signature. Point being....we all know -- someone could be drunk. Someone could be walking and signing (I had NBA players do that when I was a kid getting signatures), and they might look different.
BUT....if people here are pointing out so many flaws, with so many of your signatures...not all of them will have a "story" behind why it's different, or why it's neater, or why it doesn't look like they're normal style, etc etc etc
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What flaws has anyone pointed out? Other than the Ringo Starr signature having a more typical "R" from his early days? I can show images of Ringo's signature with a rounded R from the 2000s. Again, one letter on a piece with 4 signatures and lengthy inscriptions, does not discount the rest of the piece. Especially when the rest of it matches perfectly with their signatures and handwriting.
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Permalink Reply by Mick Jones
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What flaw ?? lol it’s FAKE
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You just said "like minded collectors." You sir, are a dealer, not a collector. Big difference. And autograph dealers have incentive to lie, forge, etc.
To say you "don't make deals" proves them correct. Because if you could PROVE your stuff authentic, you win this debate. You refuse to. It's kind of like if a man comes home at 3 a.m. and his wife asks if he's cheating on her, and he says "I won't dignify that question with an answer" -- instead of him just saying "Yeah, I was working all night. My manager Steve was with me, too. We had to get this account taken care of it was a mess. I called you, but it went right to voice mail" (she checks phone, sees a few attempted calls) -- problem solved.
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You presume to know something about me based on the fact that I have items for sale, and you label me as a "dealer". But first and foremost, I'm a human being, just like the rest of you. But so far, I haven't found anyone who actually knows how to act like one. I came on here to defend one single program because an individual tried to use it to slander me. Since then, I have been called all kinds of names and accused of all sorts of things, none of which I have done. And the reason? Because I have some nice, one of a kind, items for sale. I did not "forge" them, and I did not get them from a "forger". I purchased them directly from an individual in the UK whose Mom dedicated most of her life to acquiring them. I did try to explain this before, but nobody listened. Instead, I was treated like some kind of criminal for simply telling my story. And now, I have to defend myself to a community which I hoped to be a part of, but does not want any part of me. And if that's the case, ok. I can deal with that. But I will not compromise myself to be a part of something with which I do not belong.
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