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Permalink Reply by Mike T on May 21, 2015 at 10:01pm

No question they get the "no look" treatment from psa.

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Permalink Reply by Paul on May 21, 2015 at 10:33pm

I hope they don't get the no look treatment from Caiazzo.

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Permalink Reply by James on May 21, 2015 at 11:02pm

Amen to that, brother!

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Permalink Reply by James on May 21, 2015 at 10:50pm

I'd like to know what they "thoroughly examined".

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Permalink Reply by Pete Bendu on May 22, 2015 at 5:07am

While I can agree that some stuff that gets stickered is just silly, Rosie replaced Megan Fox in the 3rd film of the Transformers (Shia trilogy.)  Her graph is far from great but there are certainly plenty around for examples.

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Permalink Reply by GraphingMlb on May 22, 2015 at 9:43am

Well presspass is buddy buddy with a psa authenticator,do not know why you are surprised

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Permalink Reply by Joe W. on May 22, 2015 at 10:10am

I don't  care how much I want someone's autograph. Why would I want a signature like that in my collection? Authentic or not! No wonder they want someone's else's COA on it.

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Permalink Reply by James on May 22, 2015 at 12:20pm

Thanks, Pete for the examples. I seriously came up with none again when I googled. Unfortunately, though, her signature it would seem would be ripe for forging. Too bad her signature isn't as beautiful as she. I just bet that if I sent in the picture that I posted, PSA/DNA would not have passed it for me.

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Permalink Reply by Pete Bendu on May 22, 2015 at 3:13pm

James, I know this sounds crazy, but sometimes when you see an autograph that looks nothing like the celebrity's normal signature, and at the same time not neat and pretty (like a secretarial)....chances are it's not a forgery. The authenticators will see something about that graph that screams real but rushed.

You mentioned Jennifer Lawrence at the start of this thread.....she is perfect example of a celeb whose authentic inperson graph can be an utter disaster, but I can still spot a real one hidden among 100 fakes.

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Permalink Reply by James on May 23, 2015 at 12:44am

Pete, I understand what you're saying, and it does makes sense. A rushed in-person autograph can be quite different from a celebs normal sit-down auto. I do think PSA/DNA does get things right more often than not. Let's hope this was the case here. I'm just concerned sometimes about "cozy" relations between big sellers and major TPAs.

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Permalink Reply by Mike White on May 23, 2015 at 4:29pm

I just have to jump in here...

I would hope that PSA gets their exemplars from somewhere other than Google. So even if Google came up with nothing, I would hope that would have no bearing on PSA's ability to authenticate a particular piece.

As for your theory, there's only one way to test it.

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Permalink Reply by JJ on May 22, 2015 at 6:05pm

I wonder how much it would cost for PSA to provide further justification for their opinions? I feel that they are typically the best source of authentication that is readily available (I typically start with Epperson if it's rock-and-roll), and having their stuff encapsulated or slabbed is as ironclad as you can get to maintain that authentication, but if they are not available to be challenged for their opinions that people find questionable, as evidenced by this thread, then they will not be able to maintain their credibility.

If this is happening because they are authenticating things in a manner that is "Willy-nilly" then they probably won't be around long. If they, instead, can provide good explanations, then they will be able to deserve and maintain their positive status.

One can't expect PSA to be open to doing all challenges for free, so I wonder what more they will need to do them. I'll chip in, but my bottom line is I feel that they are a very necessary service to have - as long as they're legit.

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