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Permalink Reply by Brent Haynes on August 7, 2013 at 6:49am

All of the above comments about Alfie's are from the seller.  He sent me this link to a thread about Alfie's which is on this very site.

http://live.autographmagazine.com/forum/topics/alfies-autographs-of...

Permalink Reply by wascher on August 7, 2013 at 3:53pm

Just out of curiosity, did you ask Alfie?  

Permalink Reply by Brent Haynes on August 7, 2013 at 5:06pm

No. . . Alfie's are out of business or has a new owner. It was owned by Pettit who cruised Hollywood in a big black Cadillac, his trunk filled with hundreds of celebrity photos arranged alphabetically--for retrieval at a moment's notice. He would hunt down celebrities. The seller of my Clint Eastwood gave me a new link about Alfie's Where he claimed he originally bought it before the business was sold in 2002.

Here is another link he just sent me that was in the Los Angeles Times about Alfie's.

http://articles.latimes.com/1994-10-05/news/mn-46697_1_celebrity-au...

Permalink Reply by JXE on August 7, 2013 at 5:12pm

Alfies or no Alfies, you've got to look at the autograph. This doesn't match known examples, in my opinion. 

Permalink Reply by Brent Haynes on August 7, 2013 at 5:16pm

Thanks for your input JXE.

Permalink Reply by wascher on August 8, 2013 at 6:18am

Right but Alfie is still around, him personally (the person).... you could message him through FB-his FB info was in the other thread.  If the seller says they got it directly from Alfie and everyone here says he was 100% legit as he collected everything in person, asking him about that particular signature could help.  https://www.facebook.com/lovealfie

And to the others saying look at the sig not who its from, I get that.  But if I was considering a sig & someone is telling me they got it from Alfie, I'd be asking Alfie if that's true as well as looking at it.  JMO.

Permalink Reply by Brent Haynes on August 8, 2013 at 8:38am

Great! Thanks so much for idea. I didn't realize Alfie could be contacted. I haven't received the actual print with COA yet but should have it any day. I will inspect the COA and then contact Alfie. I am hoping the print was signed in a rush. I have seen similar supposedly genuine sigs - but I am a newbie and certainly not an expert. Once again thanks so much for your help and I welcome any others who have comments ether negative or positive.

Permalink Reply by JXE on August 8, 2013 at 8:45am

That other thread linked here has people posting in it that Alfie's inventory wasn't always great, either. There's mention of Christopher Lee problems and some other assorted fakes.

If there's other examples that remotely look like that, I could see going that investigative route. Hopefully others will chime. I think if you focus on the signature and not the certificate, you'll see that basically no letters of what was posted match an authentic signature. That isn't even a good forgery in my opinion. Many good forgeries are a lot more clever. 

Brent, if you bought it recently, you can still submit the ebay link to PSA for a quick opinion for $7.50. That will make it easier for you to win an ebay case and send it back as well. 

Permalink Reply by Brent Haynes on August 8, 2013 at 9:13am

Thanks. Do you have a PSA link?

Permalink Reply by JXE on August 8, 2013 at 9:18am

www.psacard.com/quickopinion

Permalink Reply by wascher on August 8, 2013 at 10:06am

Hi, I reread the thread, and the Lee was sold in 2002, after Alfie sold the business--and I'm not finding any other assorted fakes mentioned in the thread, only positive things about Alfie's sales.   Can you show me that information? 

I'm asking just so that someone's name isn't associated with bad graphs when so far I don't read that it was, even if he's no longer in it.  After he sold the business, it sounds like that's when things got questionable.

Permalink Reply by JXE on August 8, 2013 at 10:35am

I reread the thread too and it looks like I misspoke the only report is the Lee signature. 

Once again, I am strongly opposed to authenticating an autograph based on where it supposedly came from; especially when it bears no resemblance to a real autograph. 

Take a look at the auction: ebay item 330979433378. The seller was offering it for $100 or best offer and the best offer was accepted. Why did he sell it for so low if he "paid Alfies $175 for it"? Why no picture of the Alfies COA? That's why I say "where it supposedly came from". 

He could be just dropping that name to get someone to not look at the autograph and take a bite. The facts are that it looks nothing like a real Eastwood autograph and it was outrageously underpriced, even before the best offer. If this were a real item with rock solid provenance, the seller would have had no problem selling this for 100-200% more.

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