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Permalink Reply by Rich on February 25, 2014 at 10:48pm

Unless I'm missing something, Scoreboard was actually a solid company.  The major concern has been how easy they are to forge and copy or just put alongside a forgery (i.e. no matching sticker or hologram).  I don't think a Scoreboard certificate itself represents a stigma of any sort though.

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Permalink Reply by VtheP on February 26, 2014 at 9:10am

Well I guess I meant to say how do they react to seeing an item with a sticker/hologram from another company? In particular a less reputable company like GAI and even Online Authentics?

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Permalink Reply by Rich on February 26, 2014 at 9:12am

I think there is some evidence of them demonstrating a clear bias based on other certifications (i.e. failing items on the basis of a Morales certificate, etc).  GAI holograms alone may prompt a negative response, but I can't be 100% certain.

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Permalink Reply by Erich Jerozal on February 26, 2014 at 9:12am

I think that PSA and JSA are pretty good when it comes to sports autographs, and when they get something in even if it has another sticker on it.  They look at the autograph itself.  Not the sticker. 

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Permalink Reply by VtheP on February 26, 2014 at 9:28am

My problem is that I have a few Autographs that Holograms on them from other services. I wanted to get something more reputable on them. I looked at a lot of signatures and I think they are 100% legit but I don't want to have to spend the JSA fee if they should fail. I don't know if I should attempt to return these items or submit them to JSA.

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Permalink Reply by Erich Jerozal on February 26, 2014 at 9:31am

post them here.  I`m sure people on here would help you.  At least give you some ideas on whether to even send them in or not.

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Permalink Reply by VtheP on February 26, 2014 at 9:58am

I have but they haven't had too many responses. I'll try bumping them but I don't want to flood the forums and be annoying.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Zarelli on February 26, 2014 at 10:00am

In my experience, the other COA has no bearing on the JSA opinion. I have reviewed space items for JSA that had GAI stickers. Some passed, some failed. The determination was based on the autograph, not the previous COA.

Steve Zarelli
Zarelli Space Authentication
www.SpaceLOA.com

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Permalink Reply by VtheP on February 26, 2014 at 10:01am

Thank you Steve

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Permalink Reply by Taylor Williams on February 26, 2014 at 10:41am

I haven't seen the items you have posted, but I would be curious as to which authentication services were involved with the signatures in question. Most of folks on here could give you a pretty decent estimate of authenticity from that. Personally, I have had items from Scoreboard authenticated and rejected from JSA (and PSA/DNA). I don't think another hologram is grounds for automatic rejection.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Zarelli on February 26, 2014 at 10:54am

 I have had items from Scoreboard authenticated and rejected from JSA (and PSA/DNA)

Bear in mind, Scoreboard COAs have been totally compromised with counterfeits. While real Scoreboard items are undoubtedly authentic, the fakes with fake Scoreboard certs are not. Are you certain the items you submitted were legit Scoreboard items?

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Permalink Reply by Taylor Williams on February 26, 2014 at 11:19am

Actually, one that I submitted to both JSA and PSA was one I did not think was real. It was flunked by both companies.

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