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Permalink Reply by Tyler Gray on April 25, 2013 at 5:59pm

I've seen a bunch of these too. In fact I have one of Ben Stiller on an 8x10 photo. That was actually the first time I noticed it. I still believe the signature is legit from digging through tons of examples and such, but it is a bit disturbing.

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Permalink Reply by Carl Ryan on April 25, 2013 at 6:06pm

Actually i dont think these are fake.

JSA offers a mass authentication option when someone is wishing to cert their entire collection at once, in which they cert a whole batch of autographs at once, and basically give you a letter of authenticty that lists all the authenticated items. They then sticker each picture, but just dont give them a number, b/c that costs extra to the customer. To save money they are not individually certed with numbers/letters. I have several of these in my collection. Its a legit service offered through the company, as i also have a copy of the letter sent from JSA that accompanied the mass authentication. Its just a cheaper way if you are certing an entire collection at once.

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Permalink Reply by Steve on April 25, 2013 at 7:01pm

Thanks for clarifying, Carl. This may be a legit service, but it seems like an easy way for the bad guys to take advantage and replicate the sticker. No number to verify, no cert with number to match up to, etc. Several that I have seen from a few of these sellers were bad signatures.

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Permalink Reply by Michael T on April 25, 2013 at 7:06pm

Carl is close, what it actually is though, are items certified via their bulk 'Stamp of Approval' program. It usually only applies to photos that are 8x10 or smaller and have a very low value. I have never heard of them giving a dealer a letter to go with the SOA service. As far as I know the letters are given out at professional auction sites from 'lot' authentications and are not related to their SOA program.

Not sure why they original poster didn't stop by JSA to investigate first.

More here:

http://www.spenceloa.com/article.aspx?Arno=5

Here is Jonathan Frakes we had them certify via SOA:

http://catalog.worldofautographs.com/movies_and_television/male/FRA...

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Permalink Reply by Steve on April 25, 2013 at 8:34pm

Actually, I did go on their sit, but I didn't scroll down far enough. Reading it now, it states that at least 25 pieces need to be sent in and the value, as determined by JSA, needs to be less than $20.

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Permalink Reply by Null on April 26, 2013 at 6:14am

Michael is correct, they are a "stamp of approval" for low value items. I've had a couple autos with this sticker. Odd, but legit.

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Permalink Reply by Mike Shepherd on April 27, 2013 at 8:48am

I would not feel comfortable purchasing an item authenticated by JSA that does not include a JSA certificate.

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Permalink Reply by Michael T on April 27, 2013 at 9:54am

Why?

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Permalink Reply by Mike Shepherd on April 28, 2013 at 7:20pm

It is much easier to verify authenticity with a JSA certificate.

http://www.spenceloa.com/search.aspx

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Permalink Reply by Darren Ruskin, III on April 29, 2013 at 12:36am

At least they have a sticker on the item (if you think a sticker is a good thing) several years ago PSA would write a general letter for auction lots and list the signatures in the letter if it was a group of items - no photo of the signatures on the certificate. It was anyones guess if a particular item went with a particular letter or not...D

 

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Permalink Reply by Mike Shepherd on April 29, 2013 at 2:51am

Those were the days.  Remember when the only concern of collectors was forged autographs?

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Permalink Reply by Mykaphobic on April 29, 2013 at 4:26am

I don't know about PSA but JSA still do this. I have many of these auction house JSA letters. Some listing a few items, some 6 items and one that lists about 100 signed cards.

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