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Help with Preserving Signed Album with fading signatures
Hello All -
I have 3 albums that I have been displaying, with "UV" supposedly frames. These have not been in direct sunlight mind you. Over the years I have notices that the signatures have been fading. I know the damage is done, but what besides taking down and not displaying should I do to preserve these items. If I store them on the shelves out of light will that stop the damage or will these continue to fade. What is the best advice moving forward? 1 is signed with a Bic type felt pen and the 2 others are sharpie.
thanks so much with advice.
Mark Roberts
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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo
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Are they red? Images would be helpful. Indirect sunlight is harmful as well - UV radiation bounces.
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Permalink Reply by Mark Roberts
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Here are the photos -
The Paul McCartney hasn't really faded too bad, I just do not want it to start.
thanks
Mark
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It is visible. I'd get them out of the light.
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They are all put away. Is this a dumb question, Will the fading now stop?
thanks
Mark
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No, never a dumb question. Some inks do not fare well in the dark. Black Sharpies are "permanent" out of light, (blacks are rarely black but actually mixes of dark blues etc so with light...) while some metallics oxidize in the dark.
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Thanks Eric for taking the time.
Mark
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Sure. I did not see the Springsteen until now for some reason. That fade is due to time and oil based dyes I believe.
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Best thing to do for that one??
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To quote Spock "Remember."
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I guess my question is it won't get any worse if I store it away, The Springsteen, correct. "You have and will always be..."
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Permalink Reply by michelle
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Hi Eric. so what do you mean when you say black sharpies are permanent pl
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Black is often a mix of dark dyes, mostly blue. methyl violet, victoria blue, and rhodamine. Under direct light these dyes do not absorb all wavelengths, so we see the underlying blue or violet.
Sakura Pigma Micron Marker Pens are a fade proof black (true carbon pigment particles). Sharpie uses both pigments and dyes:
Sharpie Oil-Based Paint Marker: This uses an opaque, oil-based paint that is ideal for metal, glass, plastic, rubber, and stone. These contain true pigment-based ink. Because pigment sits on top of the surface rather than soaking in, these markers are completely opaque and suitable for marking dark materials, glass, and stone.
Sharpie Extreme Permanent Marker: This marker is specifically designed with extra-durable, high-contrast ink that resists fading from harsh UV rays and weather. These are formulated with a hybrid ink that combines dyes for bold color and pigments for strength. This specific blend allows the ink to survive up to 96 hours of direct UV exposure without significant fading.
Sharpie Pro and Sharpie Industrial Permanent Markers: These are designed for more demanding, high-temperature, or industrial marking tasks.These industrial marking sticks use an opaque pigment formula designed to remain visible on dark, wet, or oily surfaces.
Performance: Dye-based ink flows more easily through thin felt tips and dries almost instantly, which is why standard Sharpies don't require the "shaking" or "priming" needed for pigment-based paint markers.
Color Tone: Black dye often looks dark purple or blue when diluted because it is a blend of concentrated colors rather than a solid carbon-based particle.
Durability: Dyes are more prone to fading under UV light compared to pigments, which is why the "Extreme" or "Paint" versions are recommended for outdoor use.
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