Help with Twist & Shout EP

Any opinions on this? It is supposed to be from July/Aug 1963 and there is supposed to be some photographic evidence of the signing. Seems almost too good to be true - very clean record, same or similar pen/ink. I haven't seen the photo.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on November 10, 2012 at 3:46pm

I think your link is making a case FOR the album, Terrier. Here's a link to the one on a pink album page, done in fountain pen:

http://www.beatlesautographs.info/images/f/f5/18AUG1963.jpg

Notice how slow "Harrison" looks, with heavy flow in some of the same spots, but lighter since it's uncoated paper so Harrison didn't have to dig in. Look how rigid Lennon is...and that wild Ringo! I don't recall seeing that variant before, does anyone here?

Can someone find fountain pen sigs on the back of a record cover?

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Permalink Reply by terrier8HOF on November 10, 2012 at 3:59pm

Steve, I see stark differences between the signatures on your link, and the ones on the EP. I'm sorry but I still don't like it.

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Permalink Reply by terrier8HOF on November 10, 2012 at 4:00pm

That Ringo looks like it was signed by Lennon. I doubt Ringo signed that.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on November 10, 2012 at 4:14pm

You're right...Ringo didn't sign it. Just read the caption and it said Ringo was probably signed by Paul.

I see differences, too, but I think both pieces show they signed somewhat differently in fountain pen, and the album page isn't coated stock.

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Permalink Reply by Xperttexpert on November 10, 2012 at 5:53pm

paul in my opinion did sign for ringo.

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Permalink Reply by Chad B on December 20, 2012 at 7:53am

Did Frank Caiazzo ever provide you with samples to compare this album? I have reservations about this album as well.

As a side note, why did Frank stop authentication services for individuals several years ago? Was he too busy with auction houses, etc.?

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Permalink Reply by Xperttexpert on December 20, 2012 at 6:40pm

why would frank have to supply me with examples, i have several hundred that i have on hand from 15 yrs. of studying beatles and only beatles auto;s. i dont need examples from anyone to offer my opinion on whether or not beatles auto;s are real. ask roger why he knows this album is real. i do not authenticate for a living, only me.