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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on July 26, 2011 at 12:11pm

Matt, the image is too small. Can you upload a larger one?

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on July 26, 2011 at 12:18pm

Regarding AMA: I've been to their site but I don't recall ever seeing an autograph with their authentication. What made you decide to use them?

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Permalink Reply by Matthew D on July 26, 2011 at 12:28pm

Thanks Steve,  I will get a larger image up soon.  I used AMA because they were one of the few companies that do the quick opinion.  http://www.autographsauthentication.com/

 

I will work on a better photo. 

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Permalink Reply by Brick Hunter on July 26, 2011 at 4:12pm

I've seen some bad things with AMA authentication. I believe them to be a rubber stamp. I called their company once and reached someone who was not very helpful. They're one of those forensic document examiners and tried to impress on me their sophisticated science which proves authenticity conclusively although they can't talk about it anymore than that.

 

A bad Elvis (possibly secretarial) is currently on eBay with an AMA cert and a GAI certification. Go by the PSA quick opinion, better safe than sorry, would you ever feel comfortable buying something that one of the most respected authenticators takes a look at and says it is unlikely to be genuine?

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Permalink Reply by Matthew D on July 26, 2011 at 6:16pm

Brick,

Thanks for the reply.  Being new to this I am doing a lot of reading.  I see that PSA/DNA have some issues regarding their credibility as well.  I guess it comes down to the fact that these are just opinions, some more educated than others, but opinions nonetheless.  I haven't quite starting slugging the PSA Coolaid yet.  I guess the only real way to know is to witness the signing yourself.  That is the only true way to know. 

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Permalink Reply by James Green on July 26, 2011 at 7:46pm

Hey Matt, congratulations on learning a important lesson early as a new collector. There is a ton of fake merchandise out there, and awful people are looking to take your money. We all have learned this lesson the hard way. Try and make some good friends at your local card shop if you like sports. You can buy some real signed jerseys at the NFL team store. This is a great hobby! Enjoy the search, and always watch your back. If you stick with it, you will have a great collection as the years go by. I am at 21 years, and have a great collection

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Permalink Reply by Mike P on July 28, 2011 at 12:03am

Hey Matthew-  I STRONGLY suggest you ask a dealer named Radtke Sports if they have a Brady autographed jersey.  They most likely do and they have a great reputation in the memorabilia hobby.  They also conduct private signings with many players, and I think they have the biggest contract to date with Brett Favre. Good luck searching! -Mike

 

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Permalink Reply by Matthew D on July 30, 2011 at 12:50am

Here are two more pictures of the Brady autograph.   It has a certificate from Antiquities.  The cert doesn't state that it is for a signed Tom Brady Jersey, but it does have a hologram sticker that matches the sticker on the jersey.  The number on the holo is AOC-11956. 

 

Any input on this auto would be appreciated.  In order for me to send this thing off to PSA or JSA or something I will have to demount it, that will be a huge pain cuz the jersey is sewn onto the backing of the framing. 

 

Anway thanks for checking this out and thanks to all who have responded. 

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Permalink Reply by Tony Lando on August 1, 2011 at 4:10am

I would not trust the opinion of any third party authenticator on this signature.  In my opinion, Brady is too easy to forge, and extremely difficult to authenticate.  There are some that I see that I say "absolutely real", many more that you know are very bad, then there are those, like this one, that could be real, but in the end, I probably wouldn't buy it.

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Permalink Reply by Matthew D on August 1, 2011 at 9:31am

Thank you all for you input.  As it turns out, I ran a cert number check with Antiquities.  The number on the hologram and the cert came back to an Ashley Tisdale signed photo.  LOL.  Ok, lesson learned,  Jersey getting sent back and money being refunded. 

 

I ended up going to Gillette Stadium and buying an autographed Jersey directly from the New England Patriots.  I got the last one they had.   Official Game jersey (not a replica) signed by Tom. 

 

I guess that is the way to do it.    I just doesn't pay to try to save money and fool around with ebay. 

 

Matt

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Permalink Reply by Matthew D on August 1, 2011 at 10:16am

I called Antiquities, the number was on the Cert card.  They were VERY helpful.  Seller has agreed to refund and I am backed by ebay buyer protection anyway.  If he doesn't pay, ebay will.  I have already spoken to ebay by phone (ebay acutally reached out to me if you can believe it).

 

I will keep you posted if you are interested in the resolution.

 

Matt

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Permalink Reply by Matthew D on August 1, 2011 at 11:01am

The item wasn't purchased from Antiquities, it was purchased from an ebay seller who purchased the raw jersey from Antiquities.  The seller then attached a hologram from another item onto the jersey and included the corresponding Antiquities Cert card. 

 

When I ran the number on the hologram with Antiquities they informed me that the hologram and cert was for an Ashley Tisdale photo.  So bascially there were shenanigans going on.

 

Antiquities was very helpful with the situation.  I don't want confusion.  The nefarious activity took place by the ebay sports framing seller. 

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