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Is this PSA/DNA pre-certification a LEGIT service? Never seen it

This label was attached to an item Sold on eBay and i'm trying to see if this Pre-certification is a legitimate service offered when an LOA is not issued or if this was manufactured by someone

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Permalink Reply by Null on May 30, 2014 at 7:21am

"The Auto Scouts" forgery ring used to give a similar "PSA/DNA pre-cert" letter with their forgeries for a brief period. I contacted PSA/DNA who said it was bogus, I worked with them to get those items pulled immediately. 

Permalink Reply by Null on May 30, 2014 at 7:55am

Here is the fake "pre-cert" The Auto Scouts were using... 

Yours looks even worse than this one IMHO.

Permalink Reply by Bradford on May 30, 2014 at 8:02am

Here is the forgery listing that used it. Looks like a COA from "Collect Auctions". 

http://r.ebay.com/hJtBvC

Permalink Reply by hitmanten on May 30, 2014 at 10:45am

Wow, that looks like someone cobbled it together in Powerpoint!

Permalink Reply by Matt hayes on May 30, 2014 at 11:11am
Permalink Reply by Carl Ryan on May 30, 2014 at 12:44pm

Ryan, my hat is off to you. Your the man. Its gotten to the point that when i see one of you posts doing battle with the Auto Scouts,  i just have to laugh. Not b/c there forgeries are funny, but b/c you are constantly doing battle with these clowns, who constantly are changing names and accounts. You expose 3 accounts, and 9 more pop up in a week. Its like a full time job tracking the Auto Scouts. Its not funny at all, yet the shear amount of effort these goons are taking is just insane.  And every time i see one of your update threads with the words THE AUTO SCOUTS AGAIN, it cracks me up. 

These people just never learn, and ebay doesnt care. Anyway, great job and keep at it

Permalink Reply by Matt hayes on May 30, 2014 at 11:12am
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Permalink Reply by Matt hayes on May 30, 2014 at 11:16am

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Harry-Chappas-Auto-Autographed-Baseball-PSA...

All 'auto scouts' but you only find one listing way back in history?

Permalink Reply by Dane on May 30, 2014 at 5:05pm

Report it to PSA. Definitely not a real pre-cert. Even when PSA does pre-cert a lot, nothing is "guaranteed to pass authentication." If it were, that would defeat the entire point behind it.

Permalink Reply by Bradford on May 30, 2014 at 5:13pm
Yeah Dane I've never heard of it. I've heard of a PSA Quick Opinion but this is a joke!
Permalink Reply by Taylor Williams on June 1, 2014 at 2:00pm

Actually, if you will go to the PSA website and click on "Services", when you scroll down you will see the description of what PSA/DNA Pre-Certified means. It does actually mean that your item will pass PSA authentication. I do not know what the item is but Collect Auctions is a legitimate auction house and PSA/DNA does their "in-house" certifications. You can contact PSA and they will be able to verify whether or not the item in question was "pre-certified".

To my knowledge, this does not have anything to the forgeries from "The Auto Scouts". I am sure that PSA would love to know about their logo being used by eBay sellers without permission.

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