Jackie Gleason - Unique or bad forgery?

I know very little about Gleason, but what I have looked up on this site.

This looks like nothing I have seen - So unique or bad?

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on July 19, 2025 at 10:46am

Any further opinions either way? From anyone, OP included?

Claimed to be 80's but appears more some hybrid forgery of a proxy signer from Miami. But then that "s"...still forgery to me.

Here is a Link to the original Gleason article now 45 pages with observations and more in detail regarding the above characteristics along the way.

Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on July 20, 2025 at 3:03pm

There is nothing more I can do for the OP. We are "friends" here and not a peep, disagreement, or agreement, nothing. I am done.

Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on July 20, 2025 at 3:52pm

I mean Beatlesfan64. Sorry. From last week asking about 1980's exemplars.

Permalink Reply by eddy on July 20, 2025 at 3:38pm

Eric - 

Since you wrote me about jumping in on this thread yesterday a couple of times I will.

The OP member has not posted on AL for over three years and was last on this thread over five years ago.   

Who knows what their circumstances are or if there is even any interest anymore?  People come in and out here and it's voluntary engagement for most of us in our spare time.

For what it's worth regarding the subject, it's Jackie flipping Gleason after all.  I'd say knock yourself out on that subject regardless of if anyone responds!  😂

Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on July 20, 2025 at 3:49pm

I am sorry - lot on my plate. I am talking the recent additions re 1980's from what i think was last week. BeatlesFan 64 or something. In this thread asking about 1980's exemplars.

Permalink Reply by Beatlesfan64 on July 20, 2025 at 4:06pm

Yes, I was the one who asked.  Thanks for the examples. 

Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on July 20, 2025 at 4:17pm

Have you any thoughts about whatever you have? Can you post it? I got confused by the OP. My apologies. :)

Much too much on my plate. 

Permalink Reply by Beatlesfan64 on July 20, 2025 at 5:19pm

I have an index card signed by all four of the Honeymooner stars that I obtained in the early to mid 80’s.  I unfortunately no longer believe the Gleason signature to be real.  It matches the secretarial style of the mid 80’s discussed in earlier post in this thread going back to 2020. 
autograph collecting in the 70’s and 80’s was challenging as it was difficult to identify secretarials.  But it was still a

great hobby.

Permalink Reply by eddy on July 20, 2025 at 5:22pm

Would you care to share an image of it?  Probably it could be determined quickly about Gleason.

Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on July 20, 2025 at 5:27pm

Please post such a thing or send it to me here. How was it obtained? If TTM...Sydell Spear. But there likely thousands of certified forgeries based on that style on Gleason. There only a handful of things signed vt all four and I have shown everyone I know. If it says "To XXXXX, My best wishes = " well, let's say I have never seen an authentic Gleason with a dash.

Permalink Reply by Beatlesfan64 on July 20, 2025 at 5:57pm

It was definitely Spydell Spear.  TTM.  I will find it and post the image.  

Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on July 20, 2025 at 7:08pm

That will look like this:

PSA certified as "authentic" and on "The Honeymooners" Facts Page:

This along side it as authentic and is a forgery of a secretarial:

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