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Permalink Reply by Steve Zarelli on August 18, 2014 at 5:29pm

In my opinion, this is secretarial.

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Permalink Reply by Brick Hunter on August 18, 2014 at 7:40pm

I agree with Steve, this is an open and shut secretarial.

If I could give you some advice, Mr. Marsner, on how to best seek the opinion of this community, it would be to compile the autographs you need help on at the moment in one or two threads. Give a little background information on how you came upon this massive collection and maybe what you intend to do with it. And make sure to thank those who do lend you an experienced eye, we're a community that contribute to this site for free because we love autographs. Another piece of advice I might bestow is to try to improve your own authentication abilities. Do this with legitimate signature studies, by perusing threads on this forum, and looking at indisputable examples like checks contracts to start with. I hope some of this might have helped. I'll give my best opinion on one other autograph for you tonight.

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Permalink Reply by Søren Marsner on August 18, 2014 at 11:00pm

Thanks for all your help, Brick. I really appreciate it.

I am a danish collector of comic art and comics and about 15 years ago I contacted a man in Copenhagen who had collected autographs his entire life. He began at the age of 9 in 1929. The first ones I bought from him was only comic related : Walt Disney ( 3 ), Herge, Charles Schulz ( a daily panel from 1960 ) and Hal Foster ( a panel from Prince Valiant. ) I told him that I was interested in the whole collection and recently when he passed away the family contacted me for asking if I would still be interested in his very huge collection. I accepted though I did know that there would be secretarial and autopen in the collection. Understandable, because he usually did  a drawing sketch to the recipients or sender them a congratulations letter on birthdays etc. Therefore I am rather new in this particular forum. But started up with a very huge collection, you can say. I have myself concluded that the 2 J.F. Kennedy photos were autpoen, and for the Presley, Beatles and another Marilyn Monroe were made by secretaries. Nothing wring with that. I know it was common for big famous and celebrities to make their fans happy and could not of course themselves sign everything. Now - for bringing more autographs in the same thread ..I have now tried to do that yesterday with some more autographs. Off course I will not send photos of all 6.000 + autographs, letters and signed photos on the forum. Because of the provenance I know that they main part of the collection is genuine and also was the intentions good when it was collected nearly through 7 decades. For example I haven`t put up autographs with Muhammad Ali ( signed advertising poster for his visit in Copenhagen in 1979 - simply because I know the fact that it is genuine ).

Also my E. H. Shepard drawing from 1965 with Winnie the Pooh holding hands with piglet coming with personally written letter from mr. Shepard is authentic. The same for to other Walt Disney signed and dedicated photos / drawing. Letters from Charlie Chaplin and very easily to verify signatures from Laurel & Hardy and Ernest Hemingway on cards are not shown at this forum, because of that simple fact that I know they are genuine. Actually prices and estimated values don`t  interest me the most. It is more the fact to know if they are authentic or not. I have just being a member on this site and I think it was rather difficult to see how to start up and obviously I did a mistake making different/new threads for each famous person. Could you please make your opinion if the "new" way i putted up Elisabeth Taylor, Einstein and the Jimmy Stewart and others is ok..? As I see it they are connected to the same starting thread now.

Sorry for the long reply - but when one get started…;-)

Kind regards and many thanks for your help.

Søren Marsner, Denmark.

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Permalink Reply by Brick Hunter on August 19, 2014 at 11:45pm

Well, unless you sunk your life savings into this collection, I think the odds are you probably did pretty well for yourself. I'll take a look at another for you. This collection seems to cover a lot of the Golden Age of Hollywood which is my primary area of interest in autograph collecting. It seems to be an impressive collection.

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Permalink Reply by Søren Marsner on August 20, 2014 at 11:06pm

Yes it is..!

I have a lot of work in this period - but please tell me if there is anyone specific actors I should look after. Seemly there could be actors not so known in Europe in the collection too. But I guess it will be mostly world known stars from a rather long period. For instance this one of Mary Pickford.

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Permalink Reply by Brick Hunter on August 20, 2014 at 11:26pm

Admittedly, Mary Pickford is a little before my time collecting-wise, but from the examples I've seen, this looks authentic. Some names I would look for are Humphrey Bogart, Montgomery Clift, Cary Grant, James Dean, Audrey Hepburn, and plenty more. 

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Permalink Reply by Søren Marsner on August 21, 2014 at 12:22am

I know for sure that James Dean is not in the collection. I asked years ago.

About Mr. Bogart - there are actually two - but I have reached the conlusion myself that they are both made by secretarial. But it is a funny thing using the internet for trying to make an authenticity..I mean : The example with Bogart..: When I look at the internet I can see a lot of his signatures that is concluded to be genuine. Then I ask myself. Why isn`t there a majority of pictures with the secretarials ones..? I mean, that were the ones which were made in hundreds/thousands..! It is quite interesting that there is a majority of pictures with authentics. In my opinion there should be most examples from people who owned secretaries and thought they were real ones in stead of the opposite. For example I find a majority of Frank Sinatra signings which are obviously not authentic searching on on the internet. That should also be the case why people bring a selective portion of his signatures on this media. And if we conclude that there is made proportionally most secretaries - well that would then be the majority shown on internet pages.

I will be looking after the other names you mentioned. The Audrey Hepburn I have shown in an earlier thread. 

Kind regards 

Søren

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