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Permalink Reply by Mike Kaminski on February 12, 2014 at 7:40am

Is that a legitimate LOA? Can't they just have switched out the real one and made a fake?

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Permalink Reply by Null on February 12, 2014 at 7:42am

This appears to be some sort of "pre-approval LOA" that would accompany an auction "lot". 

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Permalink Reply by Randy on February 12, 2014 at 8:01am

It is definitely an auction LOA and certainly looks bad. I doubt if it was switched out as the item matches the description. 

I generally back JSA but in this case I can't. I know their auction LOAs are not as thoroughly examined as the full pictured LOAs but on this one they blew it.

This is the second obvious Mantle forgery I have seen with the auction LOA.

One of the major auction houses had one of the notoriously bad baseballs and when I notified them they immediately took it down.

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Permalink Reply by Null on February 12, 2014 at 8:25am

Last I heard from PSA/DNA they did stop these "auction lot pre-approval LOAs". This is JSA though... 

It could be in color, but the dude's scanner could've been set on "black/white"...who knows. 

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Permalink Reply by Randy on February 12, 2014 at 8:44am

PSA/DNA did stop issuing auction LOAs. They now pre-certify guaranteeing they will authenticate the item for an additional fee. They give the buyer 60 days to submit for full authentication at a reduced rate.

JSA still issues auction LOAs for many auction houses.

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Permalink Reply by GraphingMlb on February 12, 2014 at 11:12am

I just called JSA NJ office and sent them the auction listing and it is not anything they have put a pre cert too.

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Permalink Reply by Randy on February 12, 2014 at 11:35am

Certainly looks like their auction LOA. I guess it could be a fake LOA but this seller is legitimate.

I doubt their records are great for auction houses. I personally think they blew this one.

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Permalink Reply by Null on February 13, 2014 at 7:24am

Bid already up to $100, someone is going to get burned badly on this one... 

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Permalink Reply by Randy on February 13, 2014 at 10:38am

I contacted the Ebay seller and JSA did indeed issue an auction LOA on this item for a well known auction house. I am not going to name them here but I believe the seller.

Sellers typically don't display the auction house on the LOA because potential buyers can easily find what the item originally sold for and it can hurt bidding.

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Permalink Reply by GraphingMlb on February 13, 2014 at 11:19am

Funny as the lady I spoke too yesterday had a different tune though...

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Permalink Reply by Fuddjcal on February 13, 2014 at 2:57pm

of course they did Tony, LOL...It's an obvious fake that no one in their right mind would certify. If this is the kind of work JSA is doin these days, it wont be long until they catch GA GAI...just pathetic

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Permalink Reply by Rock G III on February 13, 2014 at 3:06pm

I can print that same exact coa from my PC whats stopping someone else? 

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