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Permalink Reply by Woody2Shoes on December 25, 2017 at 4:48pm

Chance of passing JSA: 90%

Chance of passing PSA/DNA: 75/80%

The chances are based on the elements of Gehrig signature items that each company will typically pass.

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Permalink Reply by Danny Francis on December 25, 2017 at 4:51pm

Do you believe PSA is a stricter authenticator? Over JSA or SGC?

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Permalink Reply by Danny Francis on December 25, 2017 at 4:56pm

Value $2000 ish?

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Permalink Reply by Woody2Shoes on December 26, 2017 at 12:12am

Value is in excess of $2000. As little as $4K-$5K, and as much as $7K to $10K realistically. I've seen ones of this approx. quality move for north of $10k, one just closed in a Hunt auction on ebay for $32K that was on a whiter ball with a slightly cleaner (bolder) signature, but not by that much, but IMO, those are the exceptions rather than rule.

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Permalink Reply by Woody2Shoes on December 26, 2017 at 12:17am

I'm not that familiar with SGC as far as studying their comparative grading on signatures I feel I know quite well. PSA and JSA are about the same as far as being strict. In this case, my feeling that JSA offers a slightly better chance of passing it than PSA is based solely on this particular signature itself. JSA typically passes Gehrigs with these characteristics at a slightly higher rate than PSA. At any rate, I feel both will pass and gave you my odds of doing so, of course which should be no substitute for actual submission as there are elements that cannot be perceived by scans alone.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on December 25, 2017 at 7:49pm

You need to find out a lot more about that ball before buying it, and it would definitely need to be examined in person by a qualified authenticator.

The price seems suspiciously low to me, BTW. That's a ball that would display well, so it would sell for a premium even though it's not single-signed.

What's the provenance of the ball? What are the other things the seller is selling like?

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Permalink Reply by Woody2Shoes on December 26, 2017 at 12:20am

In the case of the seller asking $2K, that's a fairly bright red flag!

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Permalink Reply by Danny Francis on December 26, 2017 at 5:53am

The ball was given to grandson. It's his only memorabilia and wants to sell it. The great Aunt worked at a hotel in Boston and supposedly got the signatures in 1938.

Makosky did not play in 1938, the Eastern league ball did not come around until 1938. I believe there were other stints in the 1920's but I cannot verify it.

The ball would display well. The unofficial ball scares me. I use Brumgans book as far as baseball's go to check the ball for authenticity.  However it only has officials ones.

I was guessing at prices based on the following listings. I try and not to use the unicorns that I see.

https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball/c...ription-071515

https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball/1...ription-071515

https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball/1...ription-071515

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