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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on October 9, 2023 at 2:27pm

If RACC was established in 2016 how can that certificate have a date of 2011? The signature and numerals appears unusual to me as well. Others will have more information.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on October 9, 2023 at 4:35pm

As you said, just saying RACC alone is enough to prove the LOA is fake. And if the LOA is fake the autograph will be too.

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on October 9, 2023 at 7:31pm

A minimum of research should show this for what it is. 

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on October 9, 2023 at 2:33pm

This should be an authentic 2011 REAL cert for comparison:

The OP appears a cut & pasted copy.

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Permalink Reply by Phil on October 10, 2023 at 9:44am

Terrible

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on October 10, 2023 at 10:18am

I added "FAKE" to title since Epperson LOA is a counterfeit.

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on October 10, 2023 at 12:05pm

Good deal Steve.

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Permalink Reply by Markus Fischer on June 13, 2024 at 7:37am

Hey colleagues,

I just stumbled across this post by accident - and immediately went and checked my Michael Jackson autograph that I bought in 2019 from private person a so-called "M. Kogler", from Groedig, Austria, via ebay Kleinanzeigen (a German classifieds page).

As it looked real at first glance and came with 2 COAs - one from Roger Epperson, one from UACC Reg. Dealer Nr. 112, Mr. George J. Houle, I felt super safe when buying.

Now - 5 years later I have to realize that it was all a big scam! Damn it! I bought a fake!

What can we learn from this?

a) The power of COAs is enormous

b) COAs can obviously be faked very easily and always need to be examined carefully (I did not know that RACC was only founded in 2016!) although they appear real and right!

c) COAs should be made more "secure", e.g. numbered or better stored in a public database for review (a picture and description of the object is mandatory in my opinion)

d) A COA from a respected dealer might easily and quickly lead to a second backing COA without careful examination (one authenticator relies on another one)

e) The autograph fake business seems to be very lucrative and those crooks do not only steal money away from us but also the joy of collecting autographs!

I do not want to blame anybody except myself for not digging deeper or noticing the fake COA and fraud. But things like that really do not bring delight to our common hobby!!!

Below my autograph on the same photo together with the two COAs for further reference.

If I only knew how I could fight against this and get my money back after such a long time...

Any thoughts from your perspective?

Kind regards
Markus

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