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Permalink Reply by Patrick Michael Bratcher on December 1, 2023 at 4:26pm

Hi Eddy,

Thanks for your response.  I contacted the owner, and explained the situation to him.  I told him I had a lifetime guarantee on the Newman autograph.  He said that he would honor the refund guarantee and get my money back to me as soon as he received the photo back.  I'm sending it back.  We'll see.

Also, I have a Elizabeth Taylor autograph that I bought from Rutland Autographs some time ago.  I opened a discussion about it's authenticity early this morning, about 2 am.  I haven't gotten any opinions.  I'm hoping that I didn't offend anyone in the club with something I wrote or didn't write.  I certainly had no intention of doing anything like that.

Anyway, if you could give me an opinion on the signature, I greatly appreciate it.  It's in the discussion section.  I'm still pretty new to this organization.  I haven't fully learned the ropes yet.  But I am making a good effort to fit in, and get along with everyone.  Thanks, Mike Bratcher.

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Permalink Reply by Eddy on December 1, 2023 at 6:27pm

I'm glad to hear they're refunding you. 

Some dealerships would not do that simply based upon opinions of fellow collectors...so that's something!

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Permalink Reply by Patrick Michael Bratcher on December 1, 2023 at 8:17pm

Did you look at the "Elizabeth Taylor" signature?  I could use some feedback on that one.  

The seller is a UACC Registered Dealer, and an AFTAL Registered Dealer.  I would think it's  legit.

Thanks,

Mike

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on December 1, 2023 at 8:19pm

Not an authentic Taylor. Check the thread - the Terms are a red flag.

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Permalink Reply by Patrick Michael Bratcher on December 1, 2023 at 8:29pm

Well, I'm sorry to hear that.  I don't understand "Check the thread," or "The terms."  I guess I need to get a book about detecting fake from authentic signatures.

Thanks Eric,

Mike

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on December 1, 2023 at 8:38pm

Most welcome. I meant to check the thread about the Taylor. The Terms refer to Rutland's return policy. Detecting forgeries and recognizing secretarials is something that takes a very long time and a tremendous amount of observation.

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Permalink Reply by Patrick Michael Bratcher on December 1, 2023 at 9:04pm

Thanks Eric! Thanks for adding a touch of clarity to my saddened state of fogginess

I'll get with Phillip on this one.  From what I know of Phillip, he's a pretty stand up guy.  Maybe we can work something out.

Taylor's a "biggie!"  There no room for error on any of them.  But I super especially want to be clean on the biggies."  They cost more!  And they sell for more!

They don't get much bigger than Ol' Liz!  Oh, excuse me, Miss Taylor.  She has always been one of my favorites.  No disrespect intended.

Funny, I sent that one to Piece of the Past for authentication.  I got a COA on it from them.

Thanks Gentlemen,

Mike 

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on December 1, 2023 at 9:11pm

No problem Patrick. Piece of the Past is a source to avoid IMO.

Here are my vintage Taylor (C. 1950) and Burton (C. 1949):

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Permalink Reply by Eddy on December 1, 2023 at 8:32pm

Hi Mike - I did reply earlier on the Elizabeth Taylor thread you started and shared my opinion on it there.  Not sure if anybody else has there up to now.

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Permalink Reply by Patrick Michael Bratcher on December 1, 2023 at 8:41pm

What was your opinion?

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Permalink Reply by Eddy on December 1, 2023 at 8:43pm

It's a fake... No doubt whatsoever in my mind.

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Permalink Reply by Patrick Michael Bratcher on December 1, 2023 at 9:17pm

Thanks Eddy, I'll yank it from the site. I want a good Liz Taylor!

I want my site sqeeky clean.  That why I'm doing this little house cleaning.  I may end up poorer after all is said and done.  But I'm gonna have a good reputation!  That's very important to me.  I want folks to know that's the way I do, and will do business!

I can't undo the mistakes I've made.  But I can learn from them, not repeat them, and move on up, or down, or whereever.  It's gonna be clean, and good.

Thank again guys!

Mike

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