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Permalink Reply by Innuendo on January 4, 2020 at 3:38am

The Roger is real and recent. I'd say there's a 2% chance this is just the single most atypical and rushed Fred on earth, but I wouldn't risk it. 

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Permalink Reply by Autographcontrol on January 4, 2020 at 8:06am

Thanxx for that..............was my first thought. This is the Seller on Ebay , a German Autographseller with many Items for sale...

https://www.ebay.de/itm/QUEEN-signed-Original-Autogramm-In-Person-F...

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Permalink Reply by Cogo on January 4, 2020 at 8:49am

I don’t have the knowledge to comment on the signatures, but the seller is one of the good guys out there: RACC dealer #147, Roland Brödner. I have bought several genuine items from him and all transactions has been 5+.

But every signature should be judged on their own merits. I would contact him directly and ask for more info if interested!

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Permalink Reply by Autographcontrol on January 4, 2020 at 12:18pm

Innuendo is the Queen Master. He judged ................. there are alot of Dealers with RACC outhere. This means nothing. I saw many Fakes for Sale even  they had the RACC and others. You can trust the People outthere they are private Collectors and knowledge of the Artist. No one else.

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Permalink Reply by Cogo on January 4, 2020 at 1:55pm

My friend Innuendo is without a doubt the best I know when it comes to Queen. He has helped me buy several genuine Freddie graphs over the years. His knowledge is not something I have doubts about. And if he has doesn’t like it, I would never buy a Freddie graph!

But I disagree with you regarding your comment that being a RACC dealer means nothing. As I said, in the end it’s only the autograph that matters, but given how corrupt and filthy the autograph business is I think it’s important to back up and support the good guys. And I know several RACC dealers that has my deepest respect and Roland Brödner is one of these.

That’s why I would ask him for more info. If he says he got it in-person, I would trust him. That doesn’t mean I would buy the graph, I wouldn’t because an atypical graph will always have a lower value and will always be difficult to resell. But I don’t think this dealer would lie!

If he doesn’t have obtained it himself, then it’s a different story. Does he make mistakes? I’m sure he does because every dealer does that sometimes. But if he offers something for sale, the chance of that graph being genuine is 1000% more likely compared to the average dealer on eBay. And THAT means something, at least to me!

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Permalink Reply by Innuendo on January 4, 2020 at 2:04pm

What a title lol I'm flattered. However, I'm not incapable of misjudging either, Autographcontrol. I tend to opin on the safer side and try to be as clear as I can about atypical graphs and their value. This is a Freddie that is so atypical and shows little to no genuine characteristics that I would deem it likely not genuine but lord knows there have been a handful of horrible looking Freddie graphs signed in very strange circumstances that were genuine and looked to not be. If this gentleman is a trusted seller and says he got it himself, I wouldn't go as far as to call him a liar but I also would not suggest purchasing the graph unless it came with photo proof of it's signing from Freddie. Typically you don't need photo proof but some graphs are so atypical, that's the only safe bet. Although I think the in-person signature may be the Roger that was added to it. That is genuine and looked pretty recent as well. It's entirely possible he purchased the Freddie and got the Roger himself. 

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Permalink Reply by Patrick1977 on January 4, 2020 at 2:40pm

I have seen this before. It was offered by Getjens in Germany a dealer that is specified on Queen and Jackson only. When I saw it it only had Mercury on. Getjens is  good guy as well. Roland is without any doubt on of the best. I don't eanna say real.or fake here just that from who it sold and sells it is for sure no piece that was easy judged legit 

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Permalink Reply by Innuendo on January 4, 2020 at 2:59pm

That makes sense. That would confirm this seller got the Roger instead of both in person. It's possible this is indeed just one of the most atypical Freddie out there but unless it comes with photo proof, this item has too many issues to be considered worth it imo. The late 70s had some of Freddies most strange transitional graphs, and even with that in mind this one would make me uncomfortable. 

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Permalink Reply by Patrick1977 on January 4, 2020 at 3:04pm

David I can tell for sure that Roger was added just within the last two years. I can ask Getjens for the history

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