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queen kind of magic autographs

Hello, I would like to have your opinion about this queen "kind of magic" signed album.. This is a promo LP, there is on the back a sticker "manufacturers property,not for sale".

I know quite well queen signatures in the middle of 80's and I feel that is geniune, what did you think ?

Thanks a lot.

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Permalink Reply by A.B. on November 18, 2015 at 6:38am

I don't think these are real.

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Permalink Reply by tmbaway on November 18, 2015 at 6:57am

thanks A.B .. why do you think this is not authentic ? something in particular ?

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Permalink Reply by tmbaway on November 18, 2015 at 6:53am

next pictures

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Permalink Reply by Fran on November 18, 2015 at 8:36am

It's not clear enough. These are the tipical ugly signatures that you never know. And when this happens, you should not buy and keep your money waiting for a better signed item to come.
A genuine signed album doesn't cause any hesitations.

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Permalink Reply by tmbaway on November 18, 2015 at 9:56am

Sorry but this is not an answer for me .. at least a serious answer. I ask you what evidence you claim that this is not good. Not a subjective point of view. I am sorry but I am an expert in my profession. Art expert. When I say that a painting is not authentic, I advance practical arguments. When you say that these signatures are "horrible," I have seen worse! or actually there was no doubt. Look at these authentic signatures dating from 86. I think that appearing on the album are not that bad .. I respect your views but I think you give no serious arguments to confirm your judgment. I think it would be useful for other members to clearly explain why the autograph is fake.

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Permalink Reply by A.B. on November 18, 2015 at 10:35am

This set is nice and authentic.
The ones on the promo LP differ a lot in my opinion. I don't consider them authentic.
This is just a collectors opinion so you have to take it for what it's worth :-)

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Permalink Reply by Fran on November 18, 2015 at 1:55pm

Do you mean that it's not a good explanation because you want more information about how to forge another vinyl without being caught? (I'm not saying you are the forger,don't get me wrong)

Well, if you want that,I'm not going to tell you those little aspects that would make your vinyl a perfect forgery. Maybe Innuendo wants to do so and your next fully signed vinyl will be so good than even mister Giancarlo will say it's good.
You are in the right way. You (or not you) did a great job forging Brian and Roger. But you (or the forger) have to practice a little more with Freddie and John. Innuendo will tell you (and tell the forger as well) more details. He's a nice guy

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Permalink Reply by Innuendo on November 18, 2015 at 2:07pm

Fran, there's always a way to spot a fake. Even WITH the information given. And as a matter of fact, I purposely left out a few more indicators and points of interest in this piece for that reason itself. I run a Queen autograph group on facebook, im well aware of the dangers of explaining every detail to sttangers as anyone could be a forger. If a forger were to have seen what i wrote, he could make a better attempt, but it still would be spotted as a fake for a couple reasons I did not mention here (with that in mind). You should never give away 100% of the information, but I also believe in helping fellow fans when I can. It's a double edged sword, but believe me- a fake will still be spotted as such.

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Permalink Reply by Fran on November 18, 2015 at 2:21pm

Great to hear that your lessons have stopped there! By the way, that AKOM has been sold for about $1200 to a french guy. C'est dommage!Bonne chance pour la prochaine fois...

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Permalink Reply by Innuendo on November 18, 2015 at 2:25pm

When was this sold? This poster could very well just be the fellow who bought it. Maybe not. Either way, I have to agree that is item is not 100% genuine and if you can get your money back, I would suggest you do (whomever purchased it).

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Permalink Reply by Innuendo on November 18, 2015 at 2:16pm

And actually, Brian is NOT fake. This Brian is in fact, genuine. The others are questionable. It could be that Brian is the only genuine part of this item, as a matter of fact.