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Permalink Reply by Jason Thanos on November 6, 2012 at 11:27am

Gary it's not Aftal s fault they are 2 legal teams one for Aftal one for Adrian and both are back and forward I did think was tuesdaish but blame me for that , but I have it in good authority it is definitely max by Friday I believe all the parties involved were gathered today and were trying to sort last details .

I hope it's before Friday as from Friday 9.00 am you guys won't see me for at list 2 weeks am off to do what I do best international chasing I have a date with my number one target Sly .

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Permalink Reply by Gary Harvey on November 6, 2012 at 11:31am

ok mate, thanks for the update

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on November 6, 2012 at 11:59am

We've waited three months. Three more days is fine by me.

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Permalink Reply by Carl Ryan on November 6, 2012 at 2:03pm

For those that know, 

Is the question from this point on what AFTAL is going to do as far as the recall process?

From what i have read, the Adrian MJ's have been proven to be definetly fake by Roger and others, no 2 ways about it. While that may not mean much to some, it would seem that the good dealers out their probably will here of Roger and others concerns and stay away from them and Adrian. It would seem that the obvious things that will happen include kicking Adrian out of the organization and recalling the MJ's. Based on that i dont know what else would have to be asked except how to best recall the items. 

But i will eagerly await to see along with everyone else.

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Permalink Reply by DB on November 6, 2012 at 2:09pm

No, the question is what is the position & path that AFTAL is going to take.  There are two options and depending on which option they choose there may be some decisions they have to make.  What portion of those decisions or path for that matter that is included in this 3 ring circus statement announcement at this point is anyone's guess.   Nothing is obvious at this junction.

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Permalink Reply by Gary Harvey on November 6, 2012 at 3:01pm

DB

We live in hope,

All I can say is that if AFTAL announce them to be fake and all of Adrians other supplied items also, its going to cost a lot of people a lot of money in repayments and settlements

Can I pose a question.............

Will all of the buyers of the sold items if called Fake by AFTAL be contacted ?

Will they be told of this situation ?

Will they be advised that doubts have been cast, and authenticity is in queston ?

Will they be refunded their purchase price ?

Obviously this is Hyperthetical as AFTAL beleive the items to be genuine (100%)

But let us see

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Permalink Reply by Rick Meyer on November 6, 2012 at 4:30pm

If AFTAL makes the right call and money reimbursed to all the buyers than good chance AFTAL doesn't survive the fallout.

Some dealers I imagine would not be able to cover the reimbursements leaving the buyers stuck with junk.

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Permalink Reply by Gary Harvey on November 6, 2012 at 4:41pm

Surely a good well respected dealer will refund their buyers ?

Thus save any hassle in the long run........................

I will do my Nostradamus predictions again ..lol

You watch .....these type of signatures will appear and re appear time after time and the confusion everytime

US dealers rejecting them, AFTAL dealers advising they are 100% genuine

The only way to stop it would every dealer whoever sold one, no matter who supplied the item to them, contact their purchasers right away.

Advise them there is confusion and advise them of a money back refund for return of the said items

End of forecast .....................

Now I dont think this will occur as a serious amount of money on Mark up from Purchase price to Retail price was made

Let us say ............. $1000 profit per item, do we really beleive a Dealer will refund this without being advised to do so ?

I will let the forum think that one over

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Permalink Reply by Rick Meyer on November 6, 2012 at 4:45pm

I think AFTAL sticks to their guns and state authentic. They will crumble otherwise.

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Permalink Reply by Gary Harvey on November 6, 2012 at 5:05pm

Rick

The AFTAL board will do the right thing, they have too

Dont they ?

 

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Permalink Reply by Rick Meyer on November 6, 2012 at 5:21pm

You would think they would. Good chance a board member and corruption on the board is at the root if it. I think AFTAL sinks if they do right thing.

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Permalink Reply by Mike Shepherd on November 6, 2012 at 5:36pm

AFTAL will do whatever the lawyers advise them to do regardless of what they feel the right thing to do is.

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