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Restored Beatles poster.

Here's a signed poster that I'm sure most of you guys have already seen.It was sold on rr a while back and more recently on iconic.The first picture is of the piece in its original untouched condition.the second picture is of the same piece with major restoration work to it.The owner was asking me if I was Interested in buying it.With that kind of work done to a piece such as this,should I totally pass on it.How much can this effect the value?

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Permalink Reply by Paul on February 6, 2016 at 11:08pm
Go the hack.
Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on February 8, 2016 at 2:14pm

???

Eric

Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on February 25, 2016 at 10:52pm

Consolidation, conservation, "restoration"...

Now I have this problem in front of me. I was in some of my collection the other day - to get out a heat flashed roof tile from Hiroshima that I sold to an advanced military collector. White I was in this storage  box, which I never really am in for obvious reasons, I decided to take a peek at my own collection, which contains fragments of homes, porcelain sake bowls, porcelain electrical items industrial and residential...and a much harder to find roof tile which is in a box made from Phoenix wood. I was able to determine with certainty who wrote on and decorated this box even though it is unsigned (in English anyway), but that is another post. I took this boxed tile out, and mentioned that is has an interesting hinged lid of rudimentary design (in a nutshell, two almost headless brads in the lid) instead of the usual "cap" type form fitted lid.

I said "well, this won't stay together forever"...and it promptly fell apart in my hands. A 1/4" x 1/4" bit of wood "covering" the right side nail inside the lid popped off - no reason for the lid to remain attached now. I remained calm, did not drop anything or expose myself overtly to any radioactive dust, I just put everything away, removed my gloves, changed my shirt, washed up and started searching for this nail. Amazingly, on a very busy rug and with stuff everywhere, I found it.

Now, some might just leave it as is. Some might have the nail in place and then refill the "hole" with the wood that came out and some adhesive or other. Others might just move the lid back a hair and re-drive the original nail into fresh wood.

The best thing to do here is nothing, for a long time - just considering the options, weighing them...will keep me busy. Never had this sort of thing happen to a "better" item.

Suggestions? Observations?

Eric 

Permalink Reply by Paul on February 25, 2016 at 11:05pm
Superglue works wonders.
Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on February 25, 2016 at 11:20pm

ROTFL :)

One solution would be to get some aged Japanese Phoenix wood, shred it, and mix with an appropriate adhesive and repair with this "filler/binder", adding the original bit on top. But this approaches the slippery area of "restoration/enhancement".

Eric

Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on February 26, 2016 at 8:54am
Just the thought of souvenirs from Hiroshima creep me out.
Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on March 2, 2016 at 11:16pm

Hi Steve,

Well, the man who collected and sold the stuff I focus on was a great proponent of peace. While his and many other shops in the area were names "souvenir shops" I don't think it was quite the word they meant. They were intended as reminders. It a complex subject-- suffice it so say the man whose works and autographs and "souvenirs" I collect was instrumental in preserving the Genbaku Dome. Kiyoshi Kikkawa 1913-1987.

Well, I was all set to say "I will leave it as is" regarding the box/tile. And then I remembered the darn hinge is still connected with the left side pin. So, I have to either remove that, or add the other one back as described. There has got to a way to return functionality for display without altering anything permanently. I do recall the blunt the nail if I redrive, but that will not be happening.

Eric

Permalink Reply by Paul Hakimian on March 3, 2016 at 4:47pm
Here's an update for those that are interested.
As you guys can see I got over the poster and moved on a few weeks ago.Just to many questions about it.I finally passed.
Yesterday morning Jason from tracks got in touch with me stating that he noticed this whole thread and asked me if I was still interested.Heres the interesting part.
The seller never owned the poster himself.Not for a second!!! He was trying to sell it to me for a profit and if I agreed to it ,he would then buy it from tTracks at a lower price.
This freakin guy was trying to broker a deal and play middle man for profit.Jason couldn't believe it.He actually knows this guy.Unbelievable!!!
More on the poster.Jason told me that they decided to let Jaime work his magic on it.He is also saying that the signatures were not touched in any way.He is offering it to me cheaper than that jerk off tried to get out of me.He also stated that when I recieve it,if I don't like it,Tracks would gladly refund me my money.
What do you guys think??Should I give it a shot.Got nothing to lose.Jason guarantees a refund if I don't like what I see.
Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on March 3, 2016 at 4:53pm

NO!

Free and clear now, new info you don't seem to like at all and huh?. Stay Away IMO! Those sigs appears touched in all the work I showed. Folks agreed. Then there is future stability...upside? Surely not originality.

Eric

Permalink Reply by Pete Bendu on March 3, 2016 at 4:55pm

I don't know Jason personally but in the autograph collecting field you can't be a very serious collector and not know him and his reputation. It sounds like a no lose situation to me, guarantee by one of the biggest names in the Beatles collecting hobby, and a price that beats the one you were seriously considering.

Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on March 3, 2016 at 5:00pm

Pete, these sigs were "apparently" altered more than a bit:

Permalink Reply by Pete Bendu on March 3, 2016 at 5:04pm

If you know for a fact that the autographs were altered, that is a different story entirely. With the info provided from Jason, "He is also saying that the signatures were not touched in any way," and the guarantee to refund if Paul doesn't like what he sees......that was a no lose situation.

If we know alterations were made to the autographs in anyway.....you will just be wasting shipping fees to return it.

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