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Restored Beatles poster.

Here's a signed poster that I'm sure most of you guys have already seen.It was sold on rr a while back and more recently on iconic.The first picture is of the piece in its original untouched condition.the second picture is of the same piece with major restoration work to it.The owner was asking me if I was Interested in buying it.With that kind of work done to a piece such as this,should I totally pass on it.How much can this effect the value?

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Permalink Reply by Paul on February 4, 2016 at 5:43pm

Yep, me too. Offer 7 and if they say no see what they come back at you with.

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Permalink Reply by Paul on February 4, 2016 at 5:39pm

The restorer needs to by kicked up the backside if mc has doodled johns face.

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Permalink Reply by Paul Hakimian on February 4, 2016 at 5:49pm

He wanted 6000pds I offered 4500 pds ,he came back with 5300 pds.I'm assuming I can get him down to 5000 pds.that's about 7300 us.I'm gonna go a little lower and offer an even 7000 us.Dont know why the doodle was taken off if it was Maccas.

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Permalink Reply by Paul on February 4, 2016 at 5:53pm

The restorers should be offering same kind of document on the work they do with posters etc because it would he nice to know if they have brushed the sigs up.

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Permalink Reply by Paul Hakimian on February 4, 2016 at 6:05pm

That would be great.like a complete discription of work performed.I'm this case
It looks like they didn't need to touch the sigs.

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on February 4, 2016 at 6:11pm

In the world of easel painting, this sort of thing would be a big no-no. Restoration, in-painting, etc. must not only be readily apparent but fully reversible. The doodle should have been left obviously. "Charm" has been removed, like dipping a coin too often. I appreciate the work - I once saw an X-Men #1 torn in clean half fully restored with rice paper, acrylic emulsion, acrylics in pigment, water and cotton balls. The reveal was the weight.

Eric

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Permalink Reply by Paul on February 4, 2016 at 7:16pm

If you paid thousands of dollars for beatles lp and found out it had been restored, you'd flip your lid.

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on February 4, 2016 at 7:30pm

Not with a UV light. Restoration like that would be returned by me unless clearly detailed, and then I would not want it. Aristotle Contemplating the Bust of Homer by Rembrandt in the Met - 1/4 of that is by another hand (lower left). Retrato de Juan Pareja, by Diego Velázquez, has about 2 inches revealed from an old fold-over on the right and bottom edges. It is still quite visible unless at some distance.

Eric

Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on February 4, 2016 at 9:18pm

Ooops, I said "restored" myself! That X-Men #1 was enhancement if there ever was such as thing.

Eric

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Permalink Reply by sling on February 4, 2016 at 7:39pm

I put forward that some of these 20th century MOVIE AND MUSIC pieces will take their place inside the fine art world. In this world, some of the greatest art,like the Cistine chapel , venus de milo, Picasso; da vinci, and many other greats at auction are routinely restored and it is usually considered added value. But it has to be done by experts requiring a hands on viewing- SO buy the piece with the right to return after a visual inspection.

But it seems like the Lennon words are much bolder--that indicates alteration of the the signature and that is no good.

I have heard of Beatles signatures being transferred somehow from elsewhere and re-adheared to a Sgt. Pepper Album. This horrifies me because it destroys the piece where the signtures originally came from and also the newly applied signatures on Sgt Pepper album are not what the Beatles minds were thinking when the signatures were WRITTEN.

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Permalink Reply by Paul on February 4, 2016 at 7:47pm

The Sgt p, was Lizzie bravos she cut two signatures out and gave them to her friend, then got them back years later and had the album restored,

It's an interesting topic, I believe posters are the big restoration item, almost every dealer does this now. Rockaway records has replaced a back cover of a Beatles signed lp, it should still be on their website.

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on February 4, 2016 at 8:00pm

Hi Sling,

They have, but anything beyond cleaning is not made invisible. There are strict guidelines for conservation/restoration - specific formulas and mixes. The real fun is happening now, that acrylics are not quite what they were supposed to be.

Eric