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RR Auction Withdraws Questionable Black Sabbath Album Brought to Their Attention

UPDATE: I've edited the title of the topic to reflect the fact that the item has now been withdrawn from sale.

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ORIGINAL POST:

While checking out the items currently on offer at RR Auction, I was shocked to spot this Black Sabbath forgery (going at $715 + BP):

Black Sabbath - Paranoid

The item is stickered by JSA, and has supposedly been "Pre-Certified" by REAL (which I'm inclined to believe means absolutely nothing, i.e. Roger never saw the piece).

Although these very same cheap fakes have been previously discussed in other threads here on the forum (e.g. here), I thought this instance warranted it's own topic.

These amateurish fakes are very common all over eBay. Recently they seem to have adjusted their Iommi signature, but it still look pretty bad. They've also stopped adding the "SABS" and the dates (usually from 1999) to the Ward signatures.

I've compiled below a few examples of these forgeries form eBay, starting from $130. I've also listed some authentic ones, ranging from $900-2000.

FORGED BLACK SABBATH ITEMS ON EBAY:

FAKE: (seller: musicmayhem2016) / $130

FAKE: (seller: gtee2010) / $199

FAKE: (seller: scatpack_2016) / $250

This one even mentions the infamous (nonexistent) "Jeff Danzig" in the description.

FAKE: (seller: *starstruckmemorabilia*) / £395

FAKE: certed by JSA (seller: thetreasuredrock) / $2500

REAL BLACK SABBATH ITEMS ON EBAY:

AUTHENTIC: (seller: wallsofsound2) / $899,99

AUTHENTIC: certed by PSA (seller: inkster_sports) / $1095

AUTHENTIC: certed by PSA (seller: sig21) / $1099,99

AUTHENTIC: (seller: presspasscollectibles) / $1199,99

AUTHENTIC: certed by PSA (seller: sig21) / $1499

AUTHENTIC: (seller: rocknrollmerch1975) / $2000

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Permalink Reply by J. Mikael on April 12, 2017 at 8:52am

Yes, that's something I've been planning to do for a while now.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on April 12, 2017 at 9:19am

Thank you!

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Permalink Reply by sling on April 14, 2017 at 10:57am

http://live.autographmagazine.com/video/copy-of-live-aid-usa J.

Michael, are these Sabbath sigs real from live aid? Around 2-3 minutes into video.

http://live.autographmagazine.com/video/copy-of-live-aid-usa

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Permalink Reply by J. Mikael on April 14, 2017 at 1:00pm

When I click on the link it says "This video is unavailable". Is it working for anybody else?

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Permalink Reply by sling on April 15, 2017 at 5:34am

I clicked and it worked. try again

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Permalink Reply by J. Mikael on April 15, 2017 at 8:38am

Still not working for me, could be a problem with the embedding. Can you type the video title, so I can search for it on YouTube directly?

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Permalink Reply by sling on April 15, 2017 at 9:35am

its on autograph live. Try going to pix videos listed at top of home page and click on the copy live aid" video.

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Permalink Reply by J. Mikael on April 15, 2017 at 9:50am

The video is embedded, and the link on this site actually streams it from YouTube. The original video was posted two years ago and is probably gone, and the reason you can (re-)view it is your browser likely has it cached.

Can you (or anybody else) post a still picture of the autographs?

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Permalink Reply by sling on April 15, 2017 at 11:17am

my apologies. Bill fraser is right, the link is

I found this link on YouTube. Is this the video?
https://youtu.be/hd91aDQPB2A

Permalink Reply by Bill Fraser on April 15, 2017 at 10:36am

I still couldn't view this on Autograph Live
I found this link on YouTube. Is this the video?
https://youtu.be/hd91aDQPB2A

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Permalink Reply by sling on April 15, 2017 at 11:16am

yes it is. I forgot it was on youtube also. My apologies for wasting anyone's time (although can't figure out why the Live site doesnt work.

Permalink Reply by J. Mikael on April 15, 2017 at 2:25pm

Finally saw it, a magnificent piece!

The Black Sabbath autographs look spot on for the time period (Geezer's signature looks to be sorta upside down). Very rare to see a full set from the '80s.