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Permalink Reply by Dave Miller on June 5, 2014 at 3:21pm

I think it's highly unlikely JLL signed the whole autograph. For one, the slant of the personalization and actual autograph are different on the LP. More importantly, the marker did not suddenly dry up to that extent between someone signing the personalization and the actual autograph. I don't think you have to be an expert to come to that conclusion.

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Permalink Reply by BallroomDays67 on June 5, 2014 at 3:49pm

The "To Dave" and the signature are at approximately the same angle. Are you saying the "Sincerely" is in a different hand because it is at a different angle?

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Permalink Reply by Dave Miller on June 5, 2014 at 4:06pm

Yeah, "To Dave" is heavily slanted then "Sincerely" is basically straight across and then JLL is slanted again. Again, beyond that, the marker is flowing heavily on "Sincerely" and then it dries up a lot for JLL. Makes no sense except, of course, if two different people signed it.

Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on June 5, 2014 at 4:25pm

Compare "Sincerely" to "To Dave." Sincerely is signed spontaneously and flows naturally, and the heights of the small letters all vary. The small letters in "Dave" are all of uniform height, the 'e' is quite different than the one in Sincerely, and both words look rigidly written.

They just don't look signed by the same person to me.

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Permalink Reply by BallroomDays67 on June 5, 2014 at 4:46pm

"Sincerely" and the signature are in the hand of JLL, and someone else signed "To Dave"?

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on June 5, 2014 at 6:07pm

Yes, I think so in this case.

Permalink Reply by BallroomDays67 on June 5, 2014 at 11:26pm

I found a photo signed to "Danny”. While it’s a small pic from an old eBay auction, the “D” appears to have the same formation, including the line extending out to the right. The “A”, “V” and “E” from the LP appear consistent with other inscriptions I’ve seen, including the extension of the last letter. The “To” portion looks spot on to me.

Permalink Reply by Chad B on June 17, 2014 at 7:27am

In response to the "sincerely" and "to Dave" being in different hands, that seems pretty far fetched to me.  Why would they do that?

Permalink Reply by Chad B on June 4, 2014 at 9:46pm

Mark Shull
Is the item you are questioning the one you sent ttm in April of 2012? Did you pay for that one?
I received a stamped signature at one point and believe I pitched it. It looks like Ballroom nailed it as a stamped example.

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Permalink Reply by Mark Shull on June 4, 2014 at 10:15pm

Yes, that is the one, and yes I did pay for it. Funny, I've had it for a couple of years and never realized it was a stamp. I've gotten stamps back before too. Can't believe I missed that!

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on June 5, 2014 at 7:07am

I'm having a hard time following this part of the conversation. Mark, you paid for an autograph from JLL and got a stamped signature in return? I looked for it in the replies here but couldn't find it. Just Ballroom's pic.

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Permalink Reply by Chad B on June 5, 2014 at 7:36am

Steve,

It is on page 6, third post.

I recall at one point JLL was offering a stamped signature for one price and a hand signed signature for a higher price. I don't recall if that discuss was on this site or another. I remember the people in the discussion wondering who in the heck would actually pay for a stamped sig.

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