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Permalink Reply by Robin McKay on February 12, 2016 at 3:00pm

My gut would tell me to stay away but I'm not too hot on these but I know a little about 'em. 

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Permalink Reply by Joe W. on February 12, 2016 at 3:11pm

Appreciate your input, Robin

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Permalink Reply by Robin McKay on February 12, 2016 at 3:38pm

They look from what I know of both similar to the authentic signatures, but something is just raising alarm bells for me Joe - could be wrong but as I say, I am not an expert and I would not touch a graph that has been smudged like Patrick's has in this case - wherever I can, I try to go for a graph that is at least in reasonable nick because its not always the case where you can get a graph hot off the press since for people like myself, IP autographs are a virtual no go.

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Permalink Reply by Joe W. on February 12, 2016 at 4:13pm

Thanks again, Robin. I think they have a decent chance of being authentic. Honestly, I am just feeling my way around newer autographs. It's so much different than the older ones. Hopefully, there will some more opinions and we all will have a clearer idea of where these two stack up.

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Permalink Reply by Robin McKay on February 12, 2016 at 5:22pm

Hey Joe

Definitely a chance and they somewhat resemble what I've seen of authentic signatures of these two, but one reason why I certainly wouldn't touch the Swayze is because its been smudged. I prefer my graphs as pristine as possible. I think there is a chance but I'm not 100% convinced but agreed mate, we'll see what others say too because I'm not an expert but I have come across said autographs before and I've been sold what I believe to be quite possibly a dud De Niro and this one looks more like it but I'm just not liking certain elements of the signature at the end and the Swayze auto, whilst there is a chance of it being genuine, just looks a bit ugly to me and the smudges would put me off right away - try and find some nicer ones is my advice, Joe. 

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Permalink Reply by Joe W. on February 12, 2016 at 5:30pm

Thanks. I always look for better ones. I tend to climb ladders. Additional note, I've found the best way to learn signatures is by holding them in your hand. The more I can see in person the better I get. 

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Permalink Reply by Robin McKay on February 13, 2016 at 3:04am

The truth is due to the expertise of a forger, you'll never truly know unless you see it signed in front of you or if you trust implicitly the person you buy from.

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on February 12, 2016 at 5:42pm

Hi Joe,

Pinterest very similar

I'm not a member so I have other data - just recognized it as very close to yours.

Eric

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Permalink Reply by Joe W. on February 12, 2016 at 5:52pm

Thanks, Eric. Indeed it is similar. Don't know anyone can effectively authenticate his signature. Here is a PSA one which has the same tendencies as the one above. Click on the picture here to see the full signature.

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Permalink Reply by Joe W. on February 13, 2016 at 7:10am

I have more concerns about the Swayze signature than the De Niro's. I've found a few examples of authenticated signatures which match similar to this dual line example but most of his signatures seem to be on a single level. Especially more rushed in-person examples.

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Permalink Reply by Robin McKay on February 13, 2016 at 9:04am

I agree with you there Joe 

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Permalink Reply by Joe W. on February 14, 2016 at 2:05pm

Bumping this one time. I'm still wondering about this Swayze signature. I know the condition is not ideal but questioning the authenticity. Hoping to get few more opinions if anyone has some knowledge of this. Thanks.

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