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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on January 6, 2019 at 3:24pm

ZZ, 

It appears that Terrier is right. That ball is listed on the site below under FAKE AUTOGRAPHS ON EBAY PSA DNA. The site is by someone trying to trash our member Chris Williams, AKA TomTresh2 on YouTube, and PSA/DNA.

In any case, don't treat members like that.

Please see below:

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Permalink Reply by Z Z on January 6, 2019 at 3:28pm

So who's football is this?

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on January 6, 2019 at 3:39pm

You posted it Z Z. How would anyone else know who owned it?

You posted a forgery supposedly authenticated PSA/DNA trying to "embarrass" one of our members; clearly, from what you said, to discourage members from giving opinions on autographs.

Yet the certification number isn't visible on the COA. Why?

Perhaps because PSA charges $75 for Tom Brady. Everything with a fee of over $50 at PSA/DNA gets a Letter of Authentication, not a Certificate of Authentication.

Which means that the Brady football on eBay was probably a forgery with a fake COA.

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Permalink Reply by Z Z on January 6, 2019 at 3:50pm

Here is the results from PSA cert oh, so I don't understand what you're talking about

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Permalink Reply by Z Z on January 6, 2019 at 3:53pm

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Permalink Reply by Z Z on January 6, 2019 at 4:15pm

And the reason I asked who owned it was because somebody was wanting me to buy it ... but I checked it out online and it looks like it's real, like everything else when you go to PSA cert

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Permalink Reply by Steve on January 6, 2019 at 3:34pm

I think it is sad that someone intentionally posts a photo trying to trick someone and using that info to attempt to make them look bad.  Spend a little more time doing your due diligence and less time trying to make others look foolish, although you have no issue doing it to yourself.

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Permalink Reply by Z Z on January 6, 2019 at 3:37pm

Right :-) so why was it authenticated by PSA if it's fake? ... I know that they just use an opinion and stuff too, not knowing, just like everybody on here, whether it's actually real or not

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on January 6, 2019 at 3:41pm

Please see above ZZ.

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Permalink Reply by Rick Meyer on January 6, 2019 at 5:35pm

Ask PSA why they authenticated that forgery. Terroir is right. That signature is not good. Buy it if you like it. Your money.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on January 6, 2019 at 4:52pm

ZZ, your profile says you're from Sparks, Nev., which is right next to Reno. That Tom Brady football is on offerUp.com, from a seller in Reno named Jack. His photo has his name, Jack Lorent, with 25 autographs for sale, most represented at having PSA/DNA authentication. Click the image to go to Jack's OfferUP home page:

Are you Jack Lorent?

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Permalink Reply by Rick Meyer on January 6, 2019 at 5:36pm

No doubt this is him.

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