Comment by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on May 18, 2011 at 6:15pm

I need some Mantles sigs on photos scanned at least 1200 dpi, as asap. We need to show the flow of these for comparisons. You can email them to me and I'll process and upload them. Can you send me a few tonight, Zippy?

Comment by Steve Zarelli on May 19, 2011 at 5:12pm

My Mantle SP just arrived today. Scan on the way, Steve C.

Comment by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on May 19, 2011 at 6:16pm

Thank you, Zippy! Here's your Mantle, the same size as the others:

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Comment by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on May 19, 2011 at 6:38pm

Here's a comparison of of first M's of yours, Zippy, with Always at Auction's/AAFES's, authenticators listed:

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Comment by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on May 19, 2011 at 6:58pm

What makes all but Zipper's look like obvious forgeries is that his is signed quickly and flows, but the other three look slowly drawn, like whoever wrote them was following a pattern or model. I can't imagine any honest and even slightly capable authenticator missing something so obvious.

Comment by Steve Zarelli on May 19, 2011 at 7:28pm

Besides the slow "chugging" effect, look at the top points of the M in the Burczyk example... you can see a dark pooling of ink where the pen REALLY slowed down. Sooooo obvious on close examination.

Comment by Steve Zarelli on May 20, 2011 at 8:37am

Interesting that one of the slowly drawn, shakey examples comes with a COA from Drew Max, AAU. Here is an excerpt of a June 23, 2003 interview done with Drew Max by The Las Vegas Review-Journal.

 

The bolding is mine.

 

Question: What about tracing?

 

Max: Harder than it looks. A forger will think, `Oh, this'll be so easy," but it's not. Try it yourself, write your signature and then try writing on top of it, trying to stay within the ink line. If you're trying to copy a whole signature, you'll find you get shaky somewhere. Those little shaky lines, or corrugations, are one of the things that give (a forger) away. They don't happen in real signatures, because people write those fluidly.

 

Question: What about your work gives you the most satisfaction?

 

Max: I love getting the bad guy; I suppose it's very similar to how cops feel. I don't like to see people get screwed over and I don't like to see criminals deteriorate society.

 

Full interview here.

Comment by Michael Kasmar-AutographPros.com on May 21, 2011 at 9:08am

Some more links about other opinions of AAFES autographs:

http://www.scrippsnews.com/node/40866

 

http://www.blowoutcards.com/forums/baseball/138127-aafes-still-sell...

 

http://www.suesomeone.org/legal-advice/can-i-file-a-lawsuit-for-fal...

 

Comment by Fuddjcal on June 2, 2011 at 4:31pm

just catching up on things and I must say those are some great examples of what some of the trash looks like vs. some real ones!!! I don't know how you guys do all the cutting and pasting of all the autos, but if a new collector would print out just these 2 exemplar sheets you did (The Fudd Files Vs. The other), I think it could save them a lot of grief. It could be a great learning tool for others that don't quite see the difference that myself and others see in a instant?

 

I hope newbiews find this link and do just 1 days homework on Mantle before being duped. These types of examples and road map was nowhere to be found when I started out not long ago, so I feel good that the information is at least out there. It can stand or not on it's own merits. Thanks for doing that with the photos I posted and showing some of the other "variations", shall we call them and why they are considered forgeries? (LOL), FUDD

 

 

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