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Is this J. Adams autograph from John Adams or who?
Started this discussion. Last reply by Old Toad Aug 19, 2021. 14 Replies 0 Likes
I bought this about 10 years ago and it was rather expensive. It is a clipped signature, and it was sold to me as a "John Adams" sig. I have had a couple people look at it recently, and I have my…Continue
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"Sorry it did not work out better for you but, at least, you now have an answer."
"Thanks. I was beginning to think that. I wonder how many J. Adams there were in the US pre 1850..."
"Deb, I have no idea who wrote this but in my opinion it was not penned by president John Adams nor president John Quincy Adams. It apparently was part of an address leaf to someone named "J. Adams" and the name was cut off the…"
"Thanks for the reply. So neither one? This is kind of like looking for one small bug that got loose in the house. Frustrating at best. Unless it is an out and out fake, somebody took the time to clip it out of a larger doc,…"
"Old Toad and Joe W., My opinion in this field and a cup of coffee……you would at least have a cup of coffee. I spent limited time checking out my old Charles Hamilton books and took a look at my 1791 J.Q. Adams legal document (only…"
"Sure thing. Starting above the 2nd "A" in Adams, it looks like the printed word "Ferdinand". As an aside, Ferdinand VII of Spain was a contemporary of both John Adams and John Quincy Adams. I never tried…"
"Let us know how this works out."
"Thanks."
"You may want to get in contact with Herman Darvick. He is a member of this site and has experience with Presidential autographs.
https://live.autographmagazine.com/profile/HermanDarvick?xg_source=profiles_memberList"
"I do not believe they are US postmarks. I think this paper predates the standard US postmark we know today (I was trying some research today.) That said, the sig is clearly over the watermarks. It is possible the marks are from the…"
"If you can date the postmarks that would certainly help. Perhaps a location?"
"That's what I thought. Think I should try to get a pic of the back? It LOOKS fairly early 19th century due to the watermarks/postmarks."
"Actually, this appears closer to John Quincy Adams signature than John Adams."
Is this J. Adams autograph from John Adams or who?
I bought this about 10 years ago and it was rather expensive. It is a clipped signature, and it was sold to me as a "John Adams" sig. I have had a couple people look at it recently, and I have my doubts now.Opinions? I'd like to know who signed it.See More
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