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The Pros and Cons of Meet-and-Greets

It’s about time I tackle this subject. I must admit, though…I’m doing so with lots of second-hand stories and editorializing. It’s also after midnight (no Clapton reference intended). I’m a little tired and just typing off the top of me head!

A few of the late night shows did a comparison between the meet-and-greets that were happening at Avril Lavigne’s concert recently. She was charging $400 for the meet-and-greet, but you couldn’t touch her. That created a series of pictures that were…really funny to look at. Fans were standing two feet from her.

A few days later, there were photos of Rhianna’s meet-and-greet. I’m not sure what she was charging, but one thing for sure. She was getting up close and personal. She’d have her arms around you. She’d let you grab her a**. She’d do wacky photos, if that’s what you wanted. And it really seems that if you’re spending the big bucks for the meet-and-greet, that’s the way a celebrity should be with the fans.

Now, this leads to the autograph collector. Since I worked for five years at a classic rock radio station, I had been backstage many times. This was before meet-and-greets were so common – unless it was put on by the radio station or some other promotion. There was never a price attached to attend them (ah, the good ol’ days!)

The first time I had the opportunity to spend money for one, was to have dinner with Paul McCartney for $5,000. I was on the fence about it. Only 20 people were being allowed to attend. When I called a few days later, they told me only two people had signed up. I was thrilled. There might only be a few of us. I told my friend he was the only Beatle I needed to complete a set, but I still wasn’t comfortable spending that much money. He and I came up with a good plan, though. I’d bring 20 albums. Have him sign those, and sell 10, to help shoulder the cost. Now, selling autographs goes against everything I feel about this hobby, but if it meant I got into an event cheaper, I was considering it. I said, “There’s no way he’s going to sign 20 albums for me.” My friend replied, “There’s no way he’s not going to. You paid five grand to get in! He owes it to you.”

I ended up not going, because I figured the most he’d sign for me was five. Thankfully, I eventually got his signature another way.

Now, fast forward 18 years. I met a guy that DID go to that same dinner. He told me he brought eight items for Sir Paul to sign. McCartney sighed, and signed two. Paul then looked over at a big guy in a suit, who promptly came over and said, “Paul isn’t here to sign a bunch of stuff.”

McCartney said, “I’ll sign one more for you, but that’s it.”

The guy got three items signed for his $5,000 (which went to a vegetarian charity he was promoting). I won’t do the math, but…that’s a lot to spend for 3 items that aren’t worth that much. I was happy I opted not to do it.

My friend is a locksmith, and he was re-keying a concert hall that Bonnie Raitt was playing at. She had turned me down for an autograph years ago, but when she did a benefit my sister was involved in, she helped me snag a signature. Raitt was charging around $500 for a backstage meet-and-greet, that included eating with her. Yet all the money she charged went to charity. That certainly makes it more palatable.

My biggest fear about these M&Gs is that the autograph collector is the most likely to be disappointed. The fans that want the wacky photos for Facebook are set. That’s because most bands are probably willing to sign a few items, but not many more. So you have to decide – is $500 or more – worth one or two items signed, and some photos? Yet the more I hear and read about M&Gs, the more I’m finding out that bands aren’t willing to sign.

I spent $100 for a meet-and-greet with Steppenwolf, because it’s a band I love, and the money went to an animal rescue charity (and included watching the sound check performance). Singer/songwriter John Kay snapped at me when I slid a third item on the table for him to sign. This is a guy that is legally blind!!! Yet he noticed, after we were all told “two items each,” I had a 3rd thing in there.

I’ve been writing the Kiss Kronikles, and a few have talked about how much they charge at the meet-and-greets. Well, I read an interview with former Metallica member Jason Newsted. He said Metallica always wanted them to do M&G’s, because Kiss made so much money. He said that it’s ridiculous to pay to meet Gene Simmons. He wouldn’t have a problem paying a few hundred to meet his favorite players from the 1970s Baltimore Orioles, but not rock stars. He said when you meet them in person, they should always sign autographs, and he’s never charged for an autograph until the website went up. He figures if fans want to order a CD or 8x10 signed on the website, they can pay, but never in person. Now that’s the attitude I want to see.

I’ve talked to a few friends that have paid for the M&Gs for “30 Seconds to Mars,” and they were told no photos. That bothered them.

There was controversy on the Godsmack website, when a fan talked about paying for the VIP package (which included a M&G). It wasn’t until after the purchase was made, that the band put on their Facebook page, “No autographs or photos.”

A woman was furious (and rightly so). She posted, “If they’re going to do this, they should state those rules on the page where we are paying for these tickets.”

Other people later posted that the band usually does sign, but only one item per person, and only if they have time. They will usually take photos, but with their photographer (which is a common practice for bands now). You then go to their website and download it.

I have been hearing horror stories regarding ZZ Top and how they handle M&Gs. This didn’t surprise me, because a stagehand I know, told me that’s the only band that ever refused to sign an autograph for him as he was working on the stage (and he only had one photo he would ask to have signed).

On the ZZ Top website, a man wrote a blog about how he was a big fan and paid $300 for the M&G. He was told by the bands manager that there would be no autographs and no photos. It would be a Q&A with the band, but that only 4 of the 20 people with their hands raised had questions answered. He was furious about spending the money for what was basically a cattle call.

Another woman wrote of a similar experience, saying she paid for this for her husband. It was enough money to feed them for a week, but she wanted to splurge for him. He came back to the hotel room rather upset. He said it was a quick three minutes and he didn’t get to say a word to the band.

So the conclusion I’ve come to is – do your research before dropping big bucks for the meet-and-greets. You might get an item signed, and a photo – but you might not. If it’s your favorite band or the money goes to charity – go for it. You’ll probably never get the chance again.

I just prefer bands to do what Def Leppard told me in an interview. They said they finally started charging for their autographs. They make everyone pay $5 and they give 100% of that to charity.

That’s affordable for everyone, and some charity gets a nice chunk of change.

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Tags: 30 Seconds to Mars, Avril Lavigne, Bonnie Raitt, Def Leppard, Gene Simmons, Godsmack, Jason Newsted, John Kay, Kiss, Metallica, More…Paul McCartney, Rhianna, Steppenwolf, ZZ Top

Comment by wascher on June 21, 2014 at 3:51pm

Anyone keeping count yet?

-w

Comment by Carlos on June 21, 2014 at 3:57pm
What are we counting?
Why the double standard?
Comment by DonBlaze on June 21, 2014 at 4:16pm

Wascher, Sorry I could not see what you are referrng too. Again, I will say I see what Carlos is saying and totally agree with  him .It appears who you are here in what you say and how many times you say it.I don't thing you can deny that.If I am wrong ,so be it, then let Carlos have his say as others do here without negative comments. Don

Comment by Ian Baldock on June 21, 2014 at 5:15pm

Carlos you just seem like you want to argue with someone. I believe most reading this except "Don" are tired of it and want to read about meet and greets.

Comment by Xwiesy on June 21, 2014 at 6:27pm
You'd think if a moderator of a free board told you to drop it, you would.

I get it- you don't think meet and greets include autos- fine , we learned that on page 2.
Comment by Josh Board on June 21, 2014 at 10:13pm

terrier8 -- I was turned down by Plant about 5 years ago in town. He had 8 security guards following him, and never even looked at us. Then at the last concert, he frowned. Yet when he saw I had the new CD, he signed it. Another guy had two solo albums of his, and he signed those. I was told by a collector from L.A. "He never, ever signs Zeppelin stuff." I had heard that before, and just brought the new CD.

DonBlaze -- I've been writing for the magazine and this site for a long time, and have NEVER heard anyone called "morons" or "stupid" for buying a bad forgery. Believe me, we all think it. When those names start getting tossed out, is when they ask our advice on authenticity, and when they don't get the answer they like -- they start getting angry about it. Then they get called a moron for buying such a bad forgery, and not doing their homework first. Believe me, ALL OF US, have been burned over the years. That could mean either purchasing, trading, or having a secretarial or tour manage sign it, after taking our piece backstage. We feel their pain. The last thing we want to do is add to it.

And regarding CARLOS -- I for one, DO NOT want him banned from this site. We were told to drop it, and we did. Well, sort of. The ONLY TIME I will bring the topic back up (and I sure hope Carlos can refrain when I do)...is if a new poster asks a question, or brings something to the table about why the artists sign or don't sign, etc. Then it might appear we're revisiting the same thing we did on page 2 or whatever, but I still want to answer, because sometimes slightly different versions of the answer can come out of me finger tips!

Comment by David K on June 21, 2014 at 10:36pm

Regarding Plant...I waited for him outside his hotel in Downtown NY...he was VERY pleasant when he saw ewhat I I wanted signed..a photo of me and him in the late 1989. He signed a solo Album..I had a pickguard with me and he SAW it.and said NO but  I wasnt planning to take that out..but he saw it in the carry all ...still he did sign the 8x10 and the one solo item without any issue.  Canrt say the same the last timer I saw Jimmy Page..he was RUNNING away.

Comment by Lars Olav Karlsen on June 22, 2014 at 4:31am

David K: Plant was really pleasant here in Norway too a couple of years ago - but we have no dealers running around, only collectors with one or two items.

Comment by wascher on June 22, 2014 at 5:08am

Carlos was taken off last night and put on a suspension (I'm leaving the time frame for that up to Steve).  This isn't the first thread he's done this on.  On another thread that Carlos was giving an opinion on (arguing his opinion over and over and over), Steve asked him to stop, and when he wouldn't Steve shut it down to end the discussion.  Carlos decided he wasn't finished and so he made a brand new discussion going over Steves head so he could argue some more. 

I value everyone's opinions.  And everyone was allowed to give theirs, but there is a difference when its opinions being shared between members and arguing to be right.

-w

Comment by Brian on June 22, 2014 at 3:48pm

I welcomed Carlos' difference of opinion. I wanted to hear more about it. I wanted him to explain & clarify. He was not interested in doing that. Honestly, I thought was f**king with us - see how much time we would waste on him. Anyways, glad we're moving on...

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