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Perhaps you think it’s a bit harsh of me to state that Spike Lee is an idiot. But it’s a two-part thing. The first is that I wanted to continue in my series of idiots (Tori Spelling being the first). Sure, Lee has a bit more talent than Spelling, but he’s just as big (although shorter), if not bigger, an idiot.

As a movie critic, I’ll give him credit for a few good movies. Do the Right Thing, He Got Game, Malcolm X, and Inside Man are all good films. Yet for as much praise as Lee gets, it can’t explain the 20 other bad movies he’s done. He’s also just a jerk.

The first time I met him, I started to talk movies with him. He scowled at me, so I wrapped up what I was saying and walked away.

I’m a huge Key & Peele fan, and when Jordan Peele found huge success (and Oscar wins) with horror films, Lee immediately latched himself onto Peele (who gave him the idea to do Blackkklansman). Peele told a story about how Lee came to a film school he was attending, to do a talk. He could tell Lee didn’t want to be there, and was rude answering the students questions, even his question. Lee laughed and talked about how his wife made him go to that and he admitted to not wanting to be there.

Think about that. You’re talking to a group of students and you can’t even smile and answer questions. Not even being smart enough to realize it’s the polite thing to do, or you might have a future filmmaker in the crowd that you might want to work with in the future.

I’ve done many speaking engagements at schools, old folks homes, and other events. Often times people ask dumb questions, but you smile, and answer the best you can. Lee is incapable of doing that. 

The second time I met Lee was when I was in New York. I had flown out with a girlfriend, to see a musician I loved named Stew, who along with his collaborated Heidi, had done a musical about his life (he was in an L.A. band called The Negro Problem, which were terrific). Heidi told me before the show that Spike Lee had been showing up and wanted to make a movie about “Passing Strange.” I was so happy for them both.

I had sent Stew an email months before, when Whoopi Goldberg was wearing a “Passing Strange” shirt (the name of his musical) on her show The View. She talked about how great it was. It was cool to see that such an amazing songwriter was finally getting praise from some big names.

My girlfriend at the time wanted to meet Spike, and I spotted him near the front of the line. I first went up to him while she kept our place in line. I said, “Mr. Lee, it’s so great that you’re here. Stew is such an amazing talent and I’m glad you’re checking his show out.” 

I’m 6’1” and he’s about 5’3”. He looked up at me and didn’t say a word. He didn’t smile. Nothing. I then said, “Could you autograph my ticket?”

He sighed, looked off to the side, and reluctantly grabbed it and scribbled his name. I thanked him and left.

My girlfriend then excitedly went over to talk to him. She came back a few minutes later furious. I asked her what happened and she didn’t tell me. All she would say is, “I’ve never met a more rude person in my life!”

And she had done security at the House of Blues for a year, and met many famous bands and singers.

I laughed hysterically when Lee threw a fit at the Oscars a couple years ago. Green Book won the Oscar for “best picture” -- as it should have. It was by far, the best movie that year (and I saw everything that was released). He got up and tried to leave the show. Perhaps he was furious his nominated movie Blackkklansman didn’t win, but isn’t that sour grapes? He also won for “best adapted screenplay” so he should be happy about that (not mention the fact that Blackkklansman was an okay movie, but not a great film; it was also 75% fiction, but that’s another story for another time).

Lee would gripe to anybody that would listen, about how Driving Miss Daisy beat him out of the Oscar when Do the Right Thing was released, and now another chauffeur driven film got him. Which I’ll admit, is funny. I’ll also admit, Do the Right Thing was a much better film than Daisy. Yet it’s weird that he didn’t appreciate Green Book showing an African-American character in a positive light, and the Italian character in a slightly negative one. But for all the bitching he did about the Oscar voters, aren’t these the same guys that gave him an Oscar in another category? Isn’t this an Academy that let in more minority members? They’re all voting on this stuff and the fact is -- Green Book is 100 times better than Blackkklansman.

Here’s another example of Lee and is idiocracy (is that even a word, or just a movie title?).

Rolling Stone released a list of the 500 best albums of all-time. Now, when lists like this come out, we all debate it. That’s to be expected. Yet the way Lee ranted about this, is just so baffling. He again played the race card. He bitched about how Michael Jackson’s “Thriller” should have been number one. Well, that argument doesn’t fly with all of us that agree with The Beatles “Sgt. Pepper” having that spot.

Lee complained about The Beach Boys “Pet Sounds” being number two, and he talked about animal sounds on a record, and made other knocks on that. Yet he admitted to never having listened to that record.

How does Lee not realize how stupid he sounded getting angry about the Rolling Stone Top 500 list? If there was a list of Top 500 movies, it would also sound stupid if David Lee Roth bitched about Citizen Kane, saying “Who cares about a movie that deals with a sled named Rosebud? And I’ve never even seen 2001!”

If Lee wants to gripe, he should first know about the other records nominated. Perhaps he doesn’t realize that this wasn’t just Rolling Stone publisher Jann Wenner coming up with it. There were over 270 big name musicians and music writers that all contributed to compiling this list (many of them African-American). It wasn’t just about how many albums were sold, or Thriller might have been #1...or maybe The Eagles Greatest Hits...or Pink Floyd’s “Dark Side of the Moon” might have taken the #1 spot. It was the #1 album for one week on Billboard, and stayed on the charts for 741 straight weeks, from 1973 to 1988. I’m guessing Lee had no problem with Dark Side being #43 on Rolling Stone’s list, since it was behind Jackson.

Now, Spike Lee did a documentary on Michael Jackson. He loves the guy as an artist. So, I’m guessing he’s also one of those naive people that doesn’t think Jackson had an inappropriate relationship with kids (that isn’t an “allegedly” as Jackson himself admitted to letting kids sleep in his bed because he “loved” them, which even if molestation didn’t occur, is inappropriate; again, another debate for another time).

It was Lee complaining so much about Rolling Stone’s Top 500 list that got me to seek it out. As much as he was griping about “Thriller” not being number one, I assumed it was way down around #50. Nope. It was number 20 on the list. Now, I might have had it a few spots higher, but not much.

As for the claims of racism that Lee made towards this list, that’s a bigger laugh. For example, should I, as a Jew, complain that Bob Dylan’s “Blood on the Tracks” not being the #1 album, because of anti-Semitism? Nope. Amazing record, but it’s already high on the list (in the Top 20). 

Speaking of which, for a guy that gripes as much as Spike Lee, as a Jew -- I’d like to ask him why in his movie “Mo’ Better Blues”, were the club owners that ripped off the artists, conniving Jewish guys. I’m guessing Spike doesn’t like when there are stereotypes about blacks on screen, but I guess it’s okay if he does it. Got it.

But back to the list. I started at 500 (which was a black artist) and the entire 500 is peppered with many, many African-Americans. But I’ll drop to the Top 50. That spot was occupied by Little Richard. At 48 was rap group Public Enemy. 47 -- John Coltrane. 46 -- Bob Marley. I loved seeing Love at number 40, with their great album “Forever Changes” (they were a biracial group, with two African-American members, but for arguments sake, I’ll count them since their leader Arthur Lee was black). 38 was Muddy Waters. 25 was the classic “Live at the Apollo” by James Brown. 24 -- Stevie Wonder. 21 -- Chuck Berry. Now, at number 20 -- that’s what didn’t thrill Spike. It was Thriller. One that beat out Thriller on the list was Nirvana’s “Nevermind” which I’m guessing Lee would hate, but it deserves to be ahead of Thriller. It created an entire genre of music (grunge). Thriller was just a more polished version of “Off the Wall” (which also made the list), with a few more hits and better production values.

Jimi Hendrix debut record was at 15. Miles Davis made it to number 12. And the highest ranking black artist -- Marvin Gaye at #6. Gaye had a total of 3 albums on the list, as did black artists Al Green, Hendrix, Ray Charles, George Clinton, Miles Davis, and rap acts Public Enemy, Kanye West, and Jay Z. Lee’s favorite artist -- Michael Jackson also had 3, which makes sense. I think people should be more outraged that Kanye and Public Enemy have the same amount of albums on this list as CCR, Steely Dan, Simon & Garfunkel, The Kinks, The Clash, The Beach Boys, and Elvis fu**ing Presley!!

You know what black artists had more albums on the list than Elvis? Stevie Wonder, Prince (who really should only have two on the list), Otis Redding, James Brown, and Sly and the Family Stone all with 4 (although Spike would probably say Elvis stole his music from the black man). Guess who had 5 records on the list? That would be: Bob Marley. 

Now I’d love nothing more than to hear music experts or hardcore music fans, debate this list. I wouldn’t put Nico/Velvet Underground in the Top 20, or the Sex Pistols that high either. But you could make an argument for how influential they were to music. 

This is easily the longest story I’ve written about autographs, which actually has very little to do with autographs. But I’m quarantined, I’m bored, and I type really fast. I type as fast as Stevie Wonder hits piano keys (I figured I’d throw that line in to make Spike happy).

It makes sense why the New York Knicks owner is done dealing with him and his horrible attitude.

It makes sense why he had to make a six figure settlement with an old white couple, when he put their address online and people showed up threatening to kill them. Oh, and why did Mr. Lee do that? He thought it was the address of George Zimmerman, who shot Trayvon Martin. Lee figured if the legal system couldn’t bring the justice he felt necessary, a mob should show up and do the job. Now, if Lee wants to go that route, let’s get O.J. Simpson’s address. Oh wait. Lee is probably a fan of O.J.

In closing, if you have the opportunity to meet Spike Lee, don’t ask for his autograph.  Look down at that goofy little fellow, and tell him he’s a racist jerk and that he should make Mo' Better Movies.

Of course, he’ll think you said that because you’re racist.

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Tags: Bob Dylan, Green Book, Heidi Rodewald, Michael Jackson, Passing Strange, Rolling Stone Top 500, Spike Lee, Stew, Thriller

Comment by Josh Board on April 12, 2020 at 12:32pm

I was never the biggest fan of The Allman Brothers. I interviewed Gregg Allman once, and he was wasted off his ass (which made for a great interview). I brought two albums, which he signed for me, and he wrote "Thanks" which is always a nice inscription after you interview someone. It's like they appreciated your time. Anyway, I worked at a radio station that LOVED the Allman Bros and couldn't fathom that I didn't (although I did dig the southern sounds of Lynyrd Skynyrd). Anyway, he made me listen to Fillmore East, and I admit -- that's a great live record. That Statsboro Blues and Whipping Post are stunning!

Comment by Josh Board on April 12, 2020 at 12:33pm

Also Sidney, I was hoping this thread would become -- both a bitching about Spike Lee AND a bitching about the Rolling Stone list! I wanted to hear what others thought about their list, or what records should be on it (I couldn't cut and paste it, because of how the list was written out)

Comment by Sidney Fields on April 12, 2020 at 1:44pm

Ha!

GREAT distraction...the greatest records of all-time.

I just went to the site and  up pops #499... BB Live at the Cook County Jail....another record engineered by Aaron Baron!  As was BB's Live at the Regal.

Everyone has his/her own taste and preferences. We can argue about where something should rank.  But most bothersome is a record that's not even on the list.

My first nomination there is Luther Allison Live in Chicago.  I know...no one ever heard of it and probably not of him either.

It came out after the great blues guitarist was gone.  A double cd.  the second disc is really good but I almost never listened to it because disc 1 is electrifying! Take a listen.

Number 2..."It Means Everything" the first disc from ska/punk/pop/rock band Save Ferris. Every song is a life-affirming gem. Even their cover of "Come on Eileen" which they do at 90 miles an hour.

They've gotta make a list of 500.

Comment by Josh Board on April 12, 2020 at 3:45pm

Save Ferris (which is a great band name, especially if you love the movie Ferris Bueller) -- does a great song called "Under 21" that I love. There were some ska bands from that era that I just love.

Oh, and Aaron Baron is the coolest name ever!!!!

Comment by Josh Board on April 12, 2020 at 7:18pm

The problem with the TOP 500 list is -- they suck in how it was all done. First off, NO GREATEST HITS should be on there, but lots of them are. To me, that's cheating. You can make the argument that many "live" albums are, but some live albums are just so legendary (Cheap Trick at Buddokan, Allman Bros Fillmore East, Frampton Comes Alive [which actually wasn't all live, but that's another argument for another time], James Brown at the Apollo].

There are also a lot of rap albums on the list that shouldn't be. I think they wanted to show they were being all inclusive. Yes on the Beastie Boys two classic records (Paul's Boutique is so damn good), and a few of the others, but they had way too many. And how do you leave out Grandmaster Flash and the Furious IV -- the best rap album ever (certainly with one of the most sampled songs, the terrific "The Message").

I would have dropped 2 of the Jackson Browne records, and two Springsteen records (The River, The Rising), dropped U2 "All that You Can't Leave Behind", and Red Hot Chili Peppers "Californiacation, and Def Leppards "Hysteria."

I would have INCLUDED: more than just Van Halen's debut. At least two more. I would have added The Doors "Morrison Hotel."

The band X got a lot of love, which is great, but John Doe's solo record "Meet John Doe" should be on there.

Drop Peter Wolf's solo record, and put a J. Geils Band on the list.

Drop Bonnie Raitt's "Give it Up" as it's not that great. Add instead Liz Phair's "Whip Smart" and move her "Exile in Guyville" into the Top 25.

Add The White Stripes De Stijl.

Drop Captain Beefheart's bizarre noise, as well as Springsteen's "Tunnel of Love" and Quicksilver Messenger Service. That might go well on a list of best 500 "1960s" albums, but not this master list (although I would keep many of the '60s records they do have on here, like The Zombies "Orace" Moby Grape, Cheap Thrills (janis joplin), and the others.

MOVIE SOUNDTRACKS. What the hell are they thinking? Look, I liked Saturday Night Fever when it came out, but...it's different artists, not just Bee Gees. That's problematic. And Prince's "Purple Rain" is SOOO overrated (also drop his album "Dirty Mind").

I love the album cover of the Stones "Tattoo You" but it's only half a great record. Drop it.

Drop two REM records. I know this band is a critics darling, but come on.

Switch the spots from Van Morrison's "Astral Weeks" and "Moondance." Moondance is sooo much better, despite what critics always say.

I'd add a few Jethro Tull albums that are great and not on the list (Benefit and Thick as a Brick, perhaps).

I'd like to see an Animals and Steppenwolf album on the list. They had many great ones. Or, if they're doing their lame "greatest hits" why not those records from those bands?

One of my personal favorite '80s bands -- Bow Wow Wow. I'd have two albums of theirs on my personal list of Top 500, but if I were doing a list for a major publication, I probably wouldn't. A list has to still look impressive to others reading it. And many think of them as a "one hit wonder."

Comment by Joe W. on April 12, 2020 at 7:36pm

This is the problem with "lists". Each of us has our own personal list. Although they do create debate and some interesting disagreements. Honestly, how can Dark Side of the Moon not be in the top 20?

Comment by Josh Board on April 12, 2020 at 7:49pm

I'm also surprised a few other Floyd albums weren't on the list. I mean...how do you leave off The Wall ???  (I'd also have Wish You Were Here, and I'd consider "Animals" because I love it, but...maybe not Top 500 when you take into account other great bands)

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