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Permalink Reply by Robert Chase on April 8, 2017 at 7:42am

In my opinion it looks off, but wait for others to comment

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Permalink Reply by J.Seah on April 8, 2017 at 7:51am

Not authentic imo.

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Permalink Reply by David on April 12, 2017 at 11:59pm

any other opinions?  

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Permalink Reply by Mr. Steffman on April 14, 2017 at 2:55pm

I need to load Pac into our sigdb but, comparing quickly, I'll go with not authentic as well.

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Permalink Reply by David on April 15, 2017 at 5:17am

I am also attaching the COA I have with this item.  Is anyone familiar with these guys?

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Permalink Reply by Mr. Steffman on April 15, 2017 at 6:53am

Yes, bad news.

The prices are often extremely low and they frequently sell names like Tupac and Kurt Cobain.

If you Google the COA, you will find many discussions about them.

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Permalink Reply by David on April 15, 2017 at 7:21am

Here's another Tupac at auction which just sold for $800 from somebody with a lot of feedback.  The same COA is present in this auction:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tupac-Shakur-Autographed-2pac-Signed-Autogr...

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Permalink Reply by Rich on April 15, 2017 at 7:28am

A lot of feedback means nothing. Plenty of fraudulent sellers have stellar feedback on eBay. 

This is admittedly from someone who knows zero about Tupac's autograph, but $286 and even $800+ seem absurdly low for a huge star who died young 20 years ago. The fact that the photos represent a holy grail of sorts for any Tupac collector (in addition to looking brand new) are a red flag of the highest variety. These look like they were signed with metallic Sharpies in the recent past. 

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Permalink Reply by Mr. Steffman on April 15, 2017 at 7:58am

Thanks for sharing David.

Rich is correct. This just means the bad Tupac on eBay and the one you're sharing here both come from the same bad source. Even though it may have a bid for $800, the buyer was just duped.

An authentic Tupac is typically well into the many-thousands. We had someone ask us to analyze some handwritten Tupac letters a few weeks ago and, for example, they told us they had refused multiple offers well above $30k for each page. (Those were exceptional because they had pages of handwritten lyrics, but still speaks on the value of 2Pac.)

My original opinion that this photo you shared was bad was made just on memory, but now that I have pulled and compared with actual samples, I'm 100% confident in saying it's not authentic.

Just for fun, I've attached a Tupac signature that I'd love to have.

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Permalink Reply by Robert Chase on April 15, 2017 at 8:55am

Yes, the same COA, however De Lucas signature is covered unlike the first example. He might claim that's not his signature on the first COA example.

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Permalink Reply by Robert Chase on April 15, 2017 at 7:04am

Hi David, I don't see any address or contact info on that COA

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Permalink Reply by Robert Chase on April 15, 2017 at 7:29am

Even the Alex De Luca signature on the COA looks like a forgery and I don't even know what his signature looks like.
Can you imagine that

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