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Permalink Reply by Sal G on January 6, 2018 at 6:26am

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Permalink Reply by terrier8HOF on January 6, 2018 at 6:52am

stamped souvenir ball, not hand signed

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Permalink Reply by Sal G on January 6, 2018 at 6:58am

Thanks for letting me know! I’m a beginning collector. What indicators can make that known?

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Permalink Reply by terrier8HOF on January 6, 2018 at 7:10am

these style balls are prevalant on ebay, with people trying to sell them as hand signed.  if you study hand signed balls, and compare to these, you will be able to identify these for what they are in a nano-second.

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Permalink Reply by Sal G on January 6, 2018 at 7:13am

Awesome, I appreciate all your help. One more question on a Mantle signature, do you know if this is real or forgery? 

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Permalink Reply by terrier8HOF on January 6, 2018 at 7:16am

poor quality image, not much detail but from what I can see, it looks like a forgery.  

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Permalink Reply by Sal G on January 6, 2018 at 7:18am

Thanks again for your help, any courses or sites to learn more you can recommend for a beginner? 

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Permalink Reply by terrier8HOF on January 6, 2018 at 7:24am

there are numerous discussions that have been posted on this site on Mantle, Dimaggio etc.  Spend some time searching and reviewing those.  

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Permalink Reply by Sal G on January 6, 2018 at 7:30am

Sounds good thanks again!

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Permalink Reply by Sal G on January 6, 2018 at 9:27am

Hi Terrier just wanted to send one more photo for your opinion. Let me know if you can

Permalink Reply by Woody2Shoes on January 6, 2018 at 11:31am

And to expand on Terrier's spot on observation, there are stamped souvenir team baseballs that have been inked over with ballpoint, in an effort to give them the deceptive appearance of being hand signed.

Typically, the pre-assembled stamped covers have margins of bold relief around each signature, on most of them, no overlap of the signatures. The appearance of perfect planning, as if by one mind. That's the typical way the signatures on the stamping plate that presses the autographs onto the hide is laid out by design.

Also, because stamped prior to assembly, the printer's ink continues down into the craters of the stitch holes! If you hand sign over stitch holes, the path of the pen will be disturbed. Since the ink is already on the hide, with a stamped ball, that printer's ink is pushed into the hole when sewn and the hole itself does nothing to disturb the flow of the "signature".

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Permalink Reply by Sal G on January 6, 2018 at 12:41pm

Thanks for the tips woody! I can see what you are talking about now.

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