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Permalink Reply by Joe Alesi on September 17, 2018 at 12:49pm

I agree it's easily forged, but what's the basis for your opinion on this one?

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Permalink Reply by terrier8HOF on September 17, 2018 at 4:29pm

I think its good

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Permalink Reply by Mr. Steffman on September 18, 2018 at 1:28pm

I can't find anything wrong with it.

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Permalink Reply by Matt S on September 18, 2018 at 3:20pm

Thank you to all member's for replying with your opinions. Greatly appreciated.

I went back to the seller and asked some more detailed history on the item and was told that this book was originally purchased from a Prof. that was at the Denver University when Obama was campaigning before the 2008 election and he had it signed. I was told further that the process in which a lot of these books were signed, was that large lots were handed to the Secret Service with the owners name, and after Obama signed them in a secured area, they were collected by the owners.

I did some further digging and found that Obama was in fact at Denver University on Wednesday, Jan. 30, 2008 and that was most likely when this particular item was signed.

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Permalink Reply by Mr. Steffman on September 18, 2018 at 4:31pm

Great work digging into the back story.  

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Permalink Reply by Matt S on September 18, 2018 at 5:55pm

Thank you for your comments Tim. Firstly i can confirm that terrior8HOF has commented on Obama signature opinions previously. Some dating back to 2014 (did some research).

Secondly i would like to hear about the five things you consider off with the signature. I always appreciate lessons in spotting authentic autographs and would be grateful if you could take the time to identify them.

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Permalink Reply by terrier8HOF on September 18, 2018 at 6:39pm

Matt, I took another look at this signature, and compared it to BO examples that I know are authentic.  The shape of the B in this example, does appear to be off.  The top half of the B is almost always larger than the bottom, in your example, it is not.

Based on that, I would have to agree with Tom G, I mean, Tim.  This one is suspect at best.  

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Permalink Reply by Mr. Steffman on September 19, 2018 at 7:20am

16% of my authentic samples have a larger B-bottom, so I'd need to hear more problematic factors to be convinced it's bad. Tim G. says he has 5 problem-factors, let's see if he contributes them or just keeps yelling at people.

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Permalink Reply by Thurston bell on September 19, 2018 at 7:25am

Go back to Facebook where you can boot collectors off if they dont agree with you,you little piss ant!  Dont forget to charge them!!

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Permalink Reply by Mr. Steffman on September 18, 2018 at 6:41pm

I've never commented on AML regarding Obama, but I have studied his signature a great deal and gathered authentic samples from reliable sources for years.

In fact, we have banned multiple forgers on FB for peddling bad Obamas over the last 3 years. I will await your factors and remain open minded.

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Permalink Reply by Mr. Steffman on September 18, 2018 at 6:48pm

So I should only share a footer link when I study a signature and believe it's authentic?

Not sure I follow how whether the signature is opinioned good or bad is relevant to the link, as opposed to me merely sharing who I am and what my company is below my opinion.

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Permalink Reply by Mr. Steffman on September 19, 2018 at 8:01am

Because promoting your eBay store products is not equivalent to mentioning a service which authenticates autographs with up to 10 expert opinions per signature.

I don't think there is anything wrong with letting people who are looking for opinions know about our service. We are not big 3, and we care a great deal.

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