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Beatles Early Cut Signatures ‘62 or early ‘63 With COA

Here is a set of early cut signatures that could be late 1962 or early 1963 if authentic. COA is from Charles Phillips whom I have never heard of before.  Resolution is not great on the signatures but good enough to say yeah or nay. Any other thoughts?

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Permalink Reply by Invest_In_Graphs on July 9, 2020 at 7:55pm

They look alright from what I can see. I'm guessing they're in an upcoming auction.

Permalink Reply by Jim Cushman on July 10, 2020 at 4:02am

Yeah,...they look OK to me....early 1963.

Permalink Reply by terrier8HOF on July 10, 2020 at 4:53am

ugly but likely authentic

Permalink Reply by Alfie on July 10, 2020 at 7:45am

i think there genuine but there a rubbish example !

Permalink Reply by Jim McFiver on July 11, 2020 at 8:29pm

They do indeed look authentic - but as others have noted, not the most desirable set.

Permalink Reply by Beatleworld on July 12, 2020 at 9:22am

Yeah I think they're ok. up for auction in the U.K, I've never heard from the COA company, not that it matters much !!!

Permalink Reply by Beatleworld on July 13, 2020 at 9:01am

These went for £1,800 plus 25%...a fair price.

Permalink Reply by Cornelis on July 13, 2020 at 9:07am

The auction fee was just 300 pounds, not 25%. I think they went for a fair price too. I'm definitely going to have them reframed though because the presentation is failrly hideous if you ask me.

Permalink Reply by Beatleworld on July 13, 2020 at 9:11am

congrats...how did you get the fee so low ? I thought it was 17.5% plus vat plus an online fee buying.... Yeah a very bad framing job and such a shame they’ve been cut up so badly too.

Permalink Reply by Cornelis on July 13, 2020 at 9:15am

Thanks!

In my experience the 25% fee you've mentioned is done by the likes of Julien's and other well known and really big auction houses. Most of the auction houses I buy stuff from in England only have a small percentage they add in comparison to others I only had something like 25% charged by Julien's.

Yeah, it's a pity that they were cut up. I assume it was just a young fan who appreciated their autographs but didn't (understandably) had a clue yet that they were once going to be very special autographs.

Nevertheless I think that this set has the potential to look great. A different and better frame job would definitely make it more appealing.

Permalink Reply by Beatleworld on July 13, 2020 at 9:19am

Yeah, will you re-frame and sell or keep ? I think they were bought for a good few hundred pound below retail, so you'll be ok whatever you decide to do.

Permalink Reply by Cornelis on July 15, 2020 at 1:22am

I'm leaning towards resell because this isnt my first set. I'm definitely going to reframe them though because regardless of what I'll eventually do itll increase in value when its framed nice and properly in my opinion.

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