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Permalink Reply by David on August 30, 2011 at 10:42am

now on ebay. cheaper! http://www.ebay.com/itm/ORIGINAL-ELVIS-AUTOGRAPH-airline-envelope-H...

 

this is not cheap but its really nice (maybe too nice to be true!!!) http://www.antiquitiesca.com/products/index.php?_a=viewProd&pro...

 

An ELVIS topic like the Hendrix topic will be perfect!!!!

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Permalink Reply by Brick Hunter on August 30, 2011 at 10:59am

The top Mike Baker one isn't good in my opinion and I can't get an image of the bottom one big enough to see but I think I've heard they sell fakes.

 

Here's a signed... I think it's a contract for something. The guy doesn't really speak English and his description isn't much understandable. I'm not sure if he's selling a copy or reproduce or if he knows it isn't a copy or why he's also sending a Gerald Ford autograph/autopen(?) with it. The seller is so ridiculous I wouldn't touch it but the signatures look good and it even looks the guy would take/would have taken around $1,000 or less for it. I honestly don't know what's going on with this item.

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/200646140608?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_...

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Permalink Reply by David on August 30, 2011 at 11:13am

 

thanks Hunter!!!

another german tale:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Elvis-Presley-autograph-Vintage-signed-cand...

 

ANy place on the web that sells Authentic Elvis signed L.P´s??

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on August 30, 2011 at 11:25am

That's a very reputable dealer and member here who would never knowingly sell anything not authentic. If you believe it's not good, let me know and I'll invite him into the discussion.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on August 30, 2011 at 12:46pm

Greg, it looks good to you?

I don't know if it's genuine or not, but Markus is always willing to discuss concerns and fix problems.

After Roger posted some Johnny Cash secretarials, Markus realized he had recently sold one, so he contacted the customer and bought it back.

 

Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on August 30, 2011 at 6:07pm

Believe me, if Bill used a Hans Bakker in the artwork of his study, he'd be embarrassed. Anyone would be. But is it? I don't know one way or the other.

Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on August 30, 2011 at 6:20pm

Greg,

I don't know enough to have concerns about it. I'm not that good on fake Elvis autographs, just the easy ones. I haven't paid enough attention to him.

My concern about double-signed postcard you chose for the study was that the salutation looks too flowing to be Elvis. But it also looks like it was signed too quickly to be Hans Bakker. He seemed to write carefully, although his Elvis signatures look pretty quick.

It would be cool to do side-by-side comparisons of Elvis and others: What's definitely bad/what's questionable/what's really hard to tell/what we're pretty sure is good/what's highly likely good.

Like the 1-5 scale we used for the Beatles signed guitar (1 being very likely good, 5 being very likely bad), but putting autographs and handwriting in the columns.

I don't know if it would work as well as it sounds to me, tho.

Permalink Reply by Brick Hunter on August 30, 2011 at 11:30am

There is some good Elvis Germany stuff out there. I think the one you pointed out is one of them. It doesn't have Hans characteristics and Brandes is an honest seller. It looks good to me.

 

Authentic Elvis signed albums are a very rare thing. RR Auction has an authentic signed record sleeve up right now.

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Permalink Reply by Brick Hunter on August 30, 2011 at 7:31pm

Not sure why it says I can only reply to a few messages here. I don't think the Elvis signature highlighting Bill White's Elvis study is a Hans Bakker. Elvis' signature had a lot of spontaneity which makes it hard to call things Bakker's forgeries based solely on the slope of the P etc. There are Elvis signatures I know are genuine more than others. I was much better at this when I had an exemplar library for Elvis. Unfortunately, I didn't keep that on an external hard drive. I can point out a number of Elvis' on eBay which are authentic with more certainty than I would that hotel contract I posted before.

 

Steve, I've be interested in any evidence you have that that contract was signed by Vernon. You seemed to know of some but didn't have the time to post it?

 

A place I learned about on here called Gottahaverockandroll.com had some Elvis' which I think could fool a great many. I'm not insinuating that they themselves know that they're not good. I don't think either of the RCA promotions they sold are genuine.

 

Historyforsale.com has some are about a step less convincing than those.

 

Then you have the trash at Coaches Corner of course.

Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on August 30, 2011 at 11:14am

Brick,

I don't have time to look up the secretarials, but I think you'll find Elvis' dad, Vernon, signed for Eivis. 

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Permalink Reply by Brick Hunter on August 30, 2011 at 11:27am

I guess this is when it would be nice to have Roger Epperson still posting on here. If only to prove one of us wrong. That's an intriguing prospect I hadn't thought of when I first looked at it. The P's are very similar but Elvis used to make that P too. The pen pressures are different and it doesn't look like there's hesitation. If that was signed in 55', Elvis didn't always and had probably recently started attaching the P to the Elvis in his signature. Why would Vernon copy that characteristic when he doesn't do it himself and Elvis had just begun and didn't always do it? I'm not sure. Here are some other pictures of contracts signed around that time I found on the web. I used to have exemplars for Elvis signatures but not anymore.

 

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Permalink Reply by Brick Hunter on August 30, 2011 at 8:47pm

I think also that PSA and JSA are very good with authenticating the real Elvis Presley items and failing the rest. I don't think there's much of a problem there. It's the ones which don't have authentication that fool so many unsuspecting buyers.

 

PSA and JSA do a great job in that respect with higher-priced autographs like Elvis in my opinion. Probably because there have been so many signature studies and so much knowledge on secretarials that don't exist in different areas like moderately-priced pieces from classic Hollywood where I disagree on some items that PSA or JSA will or has certified.

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