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So you think the first one might be real but rushed? (And definitely poor quality)
As for the second, I believe you are correct, it does look secretarial like the picture you posted.
Thank you very much Eddy.
I really can't say with much certainty on the first. I just think it's not worth the while given the quality. I don't know if you could get it to pass an authentication.
That's a great signature on a great picture!
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