Ted Williams and Willie Mays?

Any opinions on this Ted ball and Mays photo? Mays photo comes with "Say Hey" authentication, which I know means pretty much nothing at this point. But, worth a shot, right?! Thanks

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Permalink Reply by AustinCollector on August 8, 2025 at 4:25pm

The Williams is good.

I'll refrain from commenting on the Mays ; over the last 10 years the forgeries are often indistinguishable from the good stuff. Even the pros are getting fooled.

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Permalink Reply by CLiebl on August 8, 2025 at 5:09pm

Thanks AC!

Can imagine about the Mays. Would love to add to my collection, but am pretty nervous because I know there's so much forged stuff of his squiggles!

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Permalink Reply by Steve on August 8, 2025 at 5:58pm

I agree 99.9% the Williams is good, my only issue is that the d in Ted is bigger/higher than the W in Williams. usually, you see a much smaller/shorter d.

As far as the Mays I totally agree, way too many forgeries of squiggles. The one thing I will say is that the W in Willie specifically bothers me because where the line goes across, it is usually from the left, to the right, then back to the left again. If you look where it the letter starts on the bottom, then goes up, then curves around toward the right, the ink is a consistent thin line. Then it appears to stop in the middle, not line up anymore, then get much thicker as it continues to the right and then back to the left. Hope that makes sense.

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Permalink Reply by CLiebl on August 8, 2025 at 6:09pm

Thanks!

I think I see what you mean. There's like a level change at the point youre talking about. Not necessarily a lift, but the ink drops a bit lower. Didn't see that initially, thanks for the insight!

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Permalink Reply by Steve on August 8, 2025 at 6:20pm

No problem. I tend to look for these type of inconsistencies, they directly effect the flow of the signature.

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Permalink Reply by AustinCollector on August 8, 2025 at 8:02pm

For comparison, here's one of my Williams balls (PSA/DNA). It's a run of the mill, vanilla signature. Again, nothing at all concerns me with your example.

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