****This topic (and the forum) have gained media attention. Please see this article for more information:
https://radaronline.com/p/liza-minelli-autopen-signature-memoir-sca...
****ATTENTION: Steve Cyrkin, who manages this website, has asked for photos of your Liza signature.
You will need to take high-resolution images (3,000-4,000 pixels wide) of Liza's first name, last name, and smiley face SEPARATELY, as close up as can be, and saved as PNGs or the native file format (NOT JPEG).
Please take individual pictures that isolate each segment as best as possible.
Send to: editor@autographmagazine.com.
****Photos must be submitted per these guidelines****
Separately, feel free to also post your photos on the forum below for others to see.
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Recent news coverage also raises questions about whether Liza would have been able to sign books in the consistently pristine manner seen here.
There has also been widespread speculation among Liza’s fans on social media that the audiobook may involve AI-assisted voice technology, with some questioning whether the audiobook voice is a true recording or an AI-generated version of her voice.
UPDATE 4/1/26: JSA has classified the book signatures as "inconclusive," meaning they are unable to definitively confirm or deny the authenticity of the signature.
⚠️ Still frame from a video showing the overlay process between two signatures
Check out these videos showing the overlay testing process used to compare the signatures.
Note how “Liza” matches up
-First round, note how the “Love” appears to overlay nearly exactly
-Second round, the circle of the smiley face appears to overlap closely, and the L is starting to line up as well
-Third round, the Z and the A in “Liza” appear to lineup closely.
Notice how almost all of the smiley face lines up on this one
-With a slight adjustment, notice how the Z and the A start to align as well
Watch the top of the smiley face. All I am doing is bringing the circle of the smiley face into line. Watch how the Z falls into place. Watch how the top loop of the L falls into place. The “A” is a little off and also the “I” but you can see how they seem to be off by a very small and consistent distance.
Watch how the “OVE” lines up exactly on two examples received by the same person
Notice where “Love” is lining up on these and how much of Liza lines up with a slight shift
Notice how much of the entire signature overlaps
Notice how much of the entire signature overlaps.
Notice how much of the entire signature overlaps.
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Some of the segments are individually lining up….yet the two signatures appear different on face and when overlaid as a whole.
Here is a visual walk-through of identifying matching segments in overlay. This reflects how the issue was initially discovered.
Example:
First, notice how the L lines up in “Love”:
Make a slight adjustment that then brings the “ove” into line:
Slightly adjust again to bring the L of “Liza” into line:
Slightly adjust again to bring the Z and A into alignment (also notice the “I” and the comma):
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One thing that’s also interesting: If you take the dust jacket off the book, Liza’s autograph is imprinted on the front hard cover underneath (appears to be only on US editions):
The signature from the book cover above matches a verified example that appears to date from at least the early 1990s:
What’s concerning is that some of the signature patterns inside the “signed” books seem very close to that same 90s example, which makes it look possible that the earlier verified signature may have been used as a template for the autopen signatures in the book:
(Book cover signature overlaid with a signature from inside book)
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***FURTHER OBSERVATIONS***
Please see this video to learn more on how this technology works:
A thread has also been created to make others aware of this type of autopen usage and discuss if interested:
https://live.autographmagazine.com/forum/topics/beware-of-the-new-a...
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You may also visit the original Liza Minnelli thread, established when the book was announced, to read about the initial development of this issue:
https://live.autographmagazine.com/forum/topics/liza-minelli-kids-w...
Tags: Autopen, Hear, Kids, Liza, Minnelli, This!, Till, Wait, You
Good to know, but I also know what I see. They are quick! ;-)
oh interesting, ill try to compare those on my end as well.. i guess they were stupid enough to use it as a template.. ha
Matt, heres what I got with that comparison.. crazy how multiple aspects line up. had to cut the video short but ill post some pictures as well including the missing end of the video wher the A lines up
pictures
This one is just another example of how random pieces are too perfect. the eyes are exactly spaced
Thanks Jason, I’m glad to see you up and running and adding some overlays. Yeah, we’re finding similar things.
I remembered that Lumpy‘s originally lined up with one from the Facebook group that Jimmy James had posted under the original thread.
I was testing That Facebook one against the cover and getting similar results:
Jason, I know you were collecting your own examples but I’ve pulled that Facebook group that Jimmy posted back on the original thread.
Like I said in a prior post, It appears like somebody already had examined these and grouped them together accordingly
Pictures two and three on the left column appear to be the same picture so please just use one of those.
Otherwise, they all have differences well but some similarities when compared against each other. IIRC
Thanks Matt, Im not sure of the quality you see on your end but they are too small of samples to use. I saw this previously. its way too pixelated when zoomed in large enough unfortunately. bummer on my end using a PC now (finally). good for smaller examples but there's no way to see the closeup details for better comparison
Ah ok. Yeah, that may be a screenshot of a screenshot at this point . I wish we had better quality of those. I used them for a bit early on, before I had a lot of examples here. They were difficult to work with because they were so small. But it was where I first started noticing some of the repeating patterns/segments
I could try to enhance them but that wouldn't be ideal and could compromise the integrity of research
Here's one of my other examples from an independent UK bookshop that arrived today.
Great, thank you Chris. I had also stored your other one as well.
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