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Permalink Reply by Michelle on December 8, 2012 at 9:13am

There were people following the auction very closely and kept track of the purchases of 462 because people were thinking it was a museum or the estate or the family.

Lot 648 MJ White House Jacket

Lot 675 MJ Bad Tour Shirt (signed)

Lot 681 MJ Military Jacket

Lot 695 MJ Bad Tour Thriller Jacket

Lot 704 MJ Bad Tour Thriller Jacket w/M

Lot 710 MJ Bad Tour Jacket

Lot 712 MJ Dirty Diana Shirt & Glove

Lot 720 MJ Pepsi & Awards Ceremony Jacket

Lot 724 MJ Military Costume

Lot 728 MJ Signed Peter Pan Jacket

Lot 745 MJ LA Gear Photoshoot Jacket

Lot 769 MJ Academy Awards Jacket

Lot 865 MJ Dangerous Tour Jacket

Lot 877 Dangerous Tour Costume

Lot 904 MJ Dangerous Tour Beat It Jacket

Lot 931 MJ History Teaser Film Jacket

Lot 953 MJ Scream Costume

Lot 954 MJ Scream Shoes (signed on bottom)

Lot 955 MJ Custom Jacket

Lot 956 MJ Military Style Jacket

Lot 983 MJ Awards Ceremony Jacket

There are more, but these were posted as the sale was ongoing.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on December 8, 2012 at 9:43am

Michelle,

This is really important. Can you find out if anyone has the rest of the list?

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Permalink Reply by Helen on December 8, 2012 at 10:10am

Thanks for the list! So she bought the "signed" BAD shirt for a cool $144,000!!

http://www.julienslive.com/view-auctions/catalog/id/77/lot/33794/

It's actually one of the better attempts and a hard material to write on fluently from the looks of it, maybe that's why she was fooled.

Personally, I think it would be good to get the media interested in the story in order to keep the pressure up and make sure somebody else asks uncomfortable questions.

I know many of us MJ fans won't be entirely comfortable with talking to the press, but the story that Lady Gaga was possibly defrauded will put pressure both on the estate and on the police to make sure they get their facts straight.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on December 8, 2012 at 10:42am

Thanks, Helen...

I missed that on my list of signed lots!

If that list is correct, Lady Gaga bought these signed lots, too:

• Lot 675 MJ Bad Tour Belt (signed) $37,500
• Lot 704 MJ Bad Tour Thriller Jacket w/M $180,000
• Lot 728 MJ Signed Peter Pan Jacket $7,500
• Lot 954 MJ Scream Shoes (signed on bottom) $31,250

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Permalink Reply by MJ-fan-1965 on December 8, 2012 at 11:00am

Several of us have already tweeted the Team MJ site to her, not that she'll look but if she repeatedly gets the tweets that tell her to go look, she may.  And Hell will have no fury when she finds out she's been scammed, I am SURE she will make noise!

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Permalink Reply by Helen on December 8, 2012 at 10:27am

And here are the shoes ($ 31,250)

http://www.julienslive.com/view-auctions/catalog/id/77/lot/34072/

It's a classic Bush, with the rounded J, giant k loop, n loop, awkward star burst.

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Permalink Reply by MJ-fan-1965 on December 8, 2012 at 10:58am

and the L in love is wrong (chuckling here, that's what made me join this forum, that f'd up L) :))

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on December 8, 2012 at 11:45am

These are the emails from Felix Sebacious of Bravado to a friend of Michael Jackson saying that the LO Gear standee was manufactured after MJ died.

In the first email Felix Sebacious of Bravado wrote:

"Can you direct me to the seller as the standee was manufactured after Mr. Jackson had passed away."

In the second email Felix Sebacious wrote:

"I am going to investigate this"

In the third email Felix Sebacious wrote:

"The appropriate channels are investigating this. Thank you for bringing it to my attention. Truth and justice will prevail"

In the fourth email Felix Sebacious wrote:

"I am not in a position to discuss that with you at the present time."

I have written Felix Sebacious about the standee myself, but have not received any response. It makes you wonder what they have to hide.

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Permalink Reply by MJ-fan-1965 on December 8, 2012 at 12:50pm

I don't think it has to do with hiding anything.  They answered Michelle's email and stated to all of her questions that it was made after he died.  I believe they were pretty much bombarded with emails as they were called too and mentioned over 50 emails.  Since their business is directly with the Estate/Triumph, they are going to play it safe, answer truthfully, and try to keep their very big multi-million dollar deal with the Estate. 

I don't believe the fan base has started demanding answers yet, its still trickling in.   I went and searched on twitter mjonlineteam  (official online team that answer directly to John Branca/Estate).  Not one tweet yet directed to them to ask what's going on here. 

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Permalink Reply by Wendy Christine on December 8, 2012 at 1:09pm

I agree Steve.  I see a clear pulling back here from Felix between the first and fourth emails. 

I wish I could be as optimistic as MJ-fan-1965.. I just don't see how Bravado can answer truthfully AND try to keep their very big multi-million dollar deal with the Estate at the same time.

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Permalink Reply by MJ-fan-1965 on December 8, 2012 at 1:27pm

I believe Michelle's email went in around the same time as his, and she asked all of the appropriate questions (we don't see "Waldo's" questions, just the answers).  

It looks like Bravado thought this was some random seller at first (as noted Felix asks to be directed to the seller). 

And I believe he answered appropriately that they are investigating through the appropriate channels.  

Since the question is not with the last response - guessing that they are pulling back or hiding something would be a big assumption.  (unless you know the question that was asked, because I don't lol)

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Permalink Reply by Helen on December 8, 2012 at 2:15pm

I do think the last answer sounds cagey. It's obvious that a decision had been made to stop discussing details.

One would hope the reason is simply that they wanted to get to the bottom of it and not preempt a police investigation etc. This would also explain the pull-back by the Advance people.

But it could also be the Estate clamping down and trying to take control, and if that happened we can't be sure what they'll do with the information.

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