KISS autographed 8x10 by Press Pass Collectibles (Arizona) eBay

Hi fellow autograph collectors,

I came across this autographed 8x10 on eBay supposedly signed by Gene, Ace, Paul and Peter. Do you guys think it's real or fake? Note: Where is the "3" on Peter's signature?

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Permalink Reply by Rich on January 13, 2017 at 9:57am

Curious how a Bono that was priced at a couple hundred bucks from Press Pass ends up resurfacing on Ebay a couple years later with a $9.99 starting bid by seller "maruiz" from Mexico. Looks like someone figured out what they actually have.

Not surprisingly, people are already bidding on that JSA sticker.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bono-Signed-8x10-Photo-JSA-COA-U2-Autograph...

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Permalink Reply by James R. Altmann on September 16, 2013 at 11:19pm

I agree that the Ace Frehley signatures on both the photo and the guitar are bad. The Roger Waters is absolutely terrible and though a good attempt on the Bonos, they are obviously bad as well. The Alice Coopers do have the correct form, but I also see some hesitation in both signatures. I have to agree with JXE that I believe they are a reputable dealer also, but with the sheer volume of items they have, they are bound to wind up with some bad material. Looks to me as if they need a music specialist on payroll to weed this stuff out before it is ever purchased in the first place (if they are purchasing it - just guessing).

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Permalink Reply by Mike T on September 17, 2013 at 8:59am

Doesn't epperson authenticate for JSA? Are they not running these suspect signatures by him before authenticating them? With epperson on board, JSA should be far better at music items than PSA is.

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Permalink Reply by Mike Shepherd on September 17, 2013 at 3:59pm

I believe that Roger stopped authenticating for JSA but I could be wrong.

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Permalink Reply by roger epperson on September 18, 2013 at 2:20am

I still work for JSA as a consultant and have just in the past few weeks asked them to send me more of the items as some of the lower end items are fooling them. What I saw going on is some NY dealers were forging low end items in bulk and they are pretty good at them thus making it up in volume. Ted Nugent, Peter Gabriel, Sammy Hagar, Leon Russell and bands like that were coming out in droves but with my help we put a stop to it.

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Permalink Reply by Mike Shepherd on September 18, 2013 at 6:12pm

Thanks Roger.

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Permalink Reply by Carl Ryan on September 17, 2013 at 6:11pm

I was thinking the same Mike, but Mike S might be correct. I cant imagine Roger authenticating bad items on these common names. Hopefully he will chime in. If he stopped working for them, then that certainly could explain alot. Or maybe they are using someone else for music items as well. Interesting none the less.

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Permalink Reply by Mike T on September 17, 2013 at 10:01pm

JSA's website lists him as their music authenticator and Roger's own website says:

"I am the full time music autograph authenticator for JSA since November 2006-Present"

Not trying to blame Roger, but I think he should be responsible for all the music items JSA has authenticated since 2006, unless full time music authenticator means something different.

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Permalink Reply by dexter krieger on September 17, 2013 at 10:45pm

This has been going on with Press Pass Collectibles for quite some time with their JSA authenticated questionable items, so it's nothing new.

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Permalink Reply by Herman S Crawford Jr on September 17, 2013 at 6:52pm

I've gotten many KISS autographs over the years. I actually think the Paul and Gene are real, but the Ace and Peter are not.

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Permalink Reply by dexter krieger on September 18, 2013 at 2:58pm

Same thing goes here with these Sting signed photos offer by "Press Pass Collectibles", as I pointed out with the U2 and Alice Cooper. With a side-by-side comparison, you'll notice each have almost the exact guided signature lines, like it was quickly traced from an underneath reference copy. But if you check out any Sting signed photos authenticated by PSA, you won't find one Sting photo signed with this similar signature style. It's like PSA wouldn't passed these, but at one time JSA had no problem, even though these were so obviously forged. At what point, when does an authenticator stop and look, thinking "Hey, wait a minute??"