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Permalink Reply by CJCollector on February 1, 2014 at 3:11pm

Normally I would write "that this is totally bizarre."

But it's about autographs....yes, it is bizarre.

Bart, you better run to the doctor to get that foot out of your mouth.

Permalink Reply by Rick Meyer on February 1, 2014 at 2:10pm

It is on EBAY because Bart sold it.

Permalink Reply by Bart Rammelaere on February 1, 2014 at 1:45pm

no i do notRICK he said to me that he would get it sold to people he new and was going to tel them its not real but they would be willing to give him  more than the 100 he have me but what i did not know was that the person he knew was a seller himself he said they d want it becouse it looked real good and a real one is verry expensive  so no i dont think i did anything wrong  . that my opinion  sorry for that.

Permalink Reply by Rick Meyer on February 1, 2014 at 2:06pm

Bart, to each their own. Once you found out it was a forgery you should have attempted a refund which is impossible now that you can't return it or destroyed it. By selling it, in my opinion makes you no better. You sold a forgery that you knew was a forgery. Sorry to say that but seems you were awful gullible twice in the dealings over that record.

If you get a refund, which you won't now because you sold it you would still have profited on a forgery to the tune of 100 Euros.

Permalink Reply by Bart Rammelaere on February 1, 2014 at 2:37pm

jes RIck i think you are right  but it was not to profit from it , i just wanted sum of my money back and he told me he would sel it to a person who knew it was not real but was willing to pay more than a 100 so thats why i did it  idid not want it anyway , i got a real signed check  ,so yes i am guilty  sorry .

Permalink Reply by Chad B on January 31, 2014 at 12:32pm

He gave you 100 even after you told him it was fake? Did you ask why he wanted it? I sure hope it gets taken down from ebay. This is a shame.

Permalink Reply by BallroomDays67 on January 31, 2014 at 12:52pm

The listing was removed by eBay. Apparently the antiques dealer sold it to a Doors fan. The eBay seller's ID is "mrmojori", which is short for "mrmojorisin", an anagram of Jim Morrison.

Permalink Reply by Michael Frost on January 31, 2014 at 2:09pm

 

Bart Rammelaere, for all the troubles you have been having with this signed record. You have brought this to the correct forum. I am going to do what I can to help you receive a refund, but I do need all the facts.  We you submitted the record to be there was no signed of a Drew Max examination nor authentication. You had never mentioned that Mr. Max had authenticated this Doors 45 record. I think you may want to just confirm for your own records that this is the same item he claims to be authentic.

I do have the original photographs and the I do however recall that there was a Myron Ross numbered sticker on the B side of the 45 record.

I am a bit confused, who did you actual pay for this item? Who had it on ebay and who sent this in to Drew Max for examination and authentication?  

Permalink Reply by Bart Rammelaere on February 1, 2014 at 4:20am

hello Michael i wil tel you the full story now , i got the signed 45 at a shop called antiquitis of california , when i got it and payed for it the sayd that they would have it authenticated and dan send it to me a few weeks after i got back from the states i got it by mail and it had been authenticated by a drew max from AAU ,then i got on this page alot and proudly showed my signed 45 but allot of the people here said its a fake one ,so ilet mr eperson a friend on this page take alook at it and he confirmed the its fake , so than ishowed it to your page a fast look on the net and you said the same and than i desided to send it to your addres to have it properly examined and you also said it was nor real in that time i was talking with Antiquities to get a refund ,htey were verry friendly and said it would be no problem to refund me but about 4 times isend them a mail to give them my bank acount nr and information they did not respond to it , now about a week or 2 ago there was an antiquis seller from antwerp at my house to buy an old stove i had and we sat at the table and i told him my story about my signed fake 45 and he said i wil give you a 100 euro's for it i know sum people that are into the 60's rock items and he would be able to get it sold ,so isaid ok that fine for me ,i took the 100 and he left, now a few days ago i look at my page and people wer talking about a signed fake 45 on ebay and i asked a friend who by he way helped me get a REAL signed check  ,and isaid i cold not find it on ebay  but in the mean time ebay had taken it of there page ,so then i said to my self the person from PAAS said if i needed any help to get a refund to ask him so thats you i got the mail from  and now a saw this morning that there is indeed a sticker from heroes and legends on the b side of the 45 and i send them an e mail this morning to know what they know about it ,now i am waiting for a reaction from them ,so thats the full story , by the way thanks for telling me about the  heroes and legends sticker i had seenit but i just was under the asumption that it was also from Antiquities i did not no it was another authentification company ,hope to hear from you greetings bart a treu fan .

Permalink Reply by BallroomDays67 on February 1, 2014 at 10:01am

You still have the 45 in your possession? 

Permalink Reply by Michael Frost on February 1, 2014 at 5:15am

Can you post an image of side b with the Myron Ross Sticker.

Permalink Reply by Bart Rammelaere on February 1, 2014 at 5:46am

here it is Michael

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