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Are my Mantle/Williams sign real?

I usually try to get my baseball sign in person, but with these two guys, obviously, it's not possible. Bought a Mantle and a Williams from a local dealer, then found out they had been authenticated by GAI. I have no idea how to tell if these are fakes or if by some miracle I got a couple of the legit ones (not holding my breath) Can anyone help me figure out if these are real or not? Thanks

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Permalink Reply by Steve on August 2, 2015 at 12:37am

Please add a photo.

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Permalink Reply by Fuddjcal on August 2, 2015 at 9:38am

without looking at them, I'd say they are fake. Chances are nill that you found the holy grail. Authentic Mantle & Williams with a GAI Certification.

About as much chance to be real as Pam Andersons Boobs. Hope that clears it up for you with-out a photo.

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Permalink Reply by Jay on August 2, 2015 at 10:10am

I'm kind of new at the whole forum discussion thing. How do I post a pic?

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Permalink Reply by Mike Kaminski on August 2, 2015 at 10:23am

The photos you posted of a Mantle are fake.

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Permalink Reply by Jay on August 2, 2015 at 10:29am

Don't take this the wrong way or anything, but which elements of the signature look fake? I'm not trying to be smart, I'm trying to learn so I know what to look for. I mean, is it the shape of the M's, the way the "t" is crossed, etc? Any insight would be helpful. Thanks. J

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Permalink Reply by Mike P on August 2, 2015 at 11:48am

Here is the picture of the Mantle in question:

This is a Florida Mantle forgery. It is a common forgery and a lot of members here have made posts about these. The M's and the last name looks like Mautle, which are telltale signs of this forgery type