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Paul McCartney signed Hofner Guitars w/ JSA & PSA - BUYER BEWARE

Hi everyone - I know that this was a previous topic last week in regards to a Paul McCartney signed Hofner guitar with a JSA cert that was identical to a particular High In the Clouds book signature.

http://live.autographmagazine.com/forum/topics/macca-signed-hofner-...

Just wanted to let everyone know that there seems to be a serious scam going on as I have been given a picture to another 'signed' Hofner, equipped with a different High In the Clouds signature.

My questions for the AML group is:

1. Has anyone noticed any other artists with this copied signature issue on pick guards or any other item?

2. Do you believe this to be live ink? Doesn't look like an autopen to me.

To me, this is a huge issue because (1) the replicas are being certed (2) no one knows where these are coming from and (3) without matches, most would have accepted it as real.

Lets get to the bottom of this. A scam like this can ruin our hobby

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Permalink Reply by marc e on March 29, 2017 at 10:50pm

thats what i said look at the round edges there not right ,there not factory cut.

theres clues all over if u know what too look for but they will fool just about all

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on March 30, 2017 at 12:08am

Do you think that speaks to the collecting community?

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Permalink Reply by marc e on March 30, 2017 at 10:38am

well look the collectors put all this trust in people that they pay to tell the if there stuff is real or fake with no trainer per see,

they use a light too see if theres real ink well we can all do that

they trust these people on what to buy or not so from that stand point theres already a problem and its that leads too corruptions and fruad.

especial when so sell and consign to auction houses there not non biased.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on March 28, 2017 at 2:26pm

Here's a closeup of a book signature, from a past Iconic sale:

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Permalink Reply by Corey Moylan on March 28, 2017 at 2:47pm

I think I am starting to agree with Steffman on this. Someone must of glued these signatures on. What crooks exist in the hobby. Btw, I took down 'fake' in the title because these can technically be genuine 'repurposed' signatures.

But I am very surprised PSA or JSA didn't catch this during examination.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on March 28, 2017 at 2:56pm

Sleazy. People are paying sometimes $10,000 or more for these.

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Permalink Reply by marc e on March 28, 2017 at 3:09pm

if the where real they would be 10 k plus on pickguard 15-20k on the body

the fact that so many are showing up at one time should be a big clue theres a problem

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Permalink Reply by marc e on March 29, 2017 at 10:53pm

if psa / jsa isnt actualy handling the pickguard and there doing the whole guitar then its easy too fool them becuase all there doing is looking for live ink and is the sig right. no examination of the pickguard or anything,

as ive said the who tpa is ?????????? buyer beware

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Permalink Reply by Eric Keith Longo on March 30, 2017 at 12:07am

Can another conclusion be drawn?

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on March 28, 2017 at 2:44pm

These may actually be repurposed books. It's looking like a real possibility thanks to Mr. Steffman's research. It's still would not be a signed pickguard at all.

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Permalink Reply by Adam Halloran on March 28, 2017 at 3:33pm

Has anyone contacted the sellers and pointed them to this discussion? It is pretty hard evidence.

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Permalink Reply by Steve Cyrkin, Admin on March 28, 2017 at 4:13pm

I haven't yet. There is one being raffled on FB right now and two people said they tried to post about it. Both had their posts removed and one said he was kicked out of the group.